Hi Danah
Can we get hold of a head & shoulders colour photo of you to use alongside a slot which sites you as a blog guru for Guardian Newspapers?
Bit urgent!
Thanks S

Hi Danah,

I don't know if you saw James Spader's character Alan Shore's closing arguments in the "Stick It!" episode of Boston Legal (if not, you can see it here http://www.boston-legal.org/19-stickit/BL-2x19-Stick-It-ClosingArguments.asx).

It is an empassioned speech on how America is lying down as the Executive tramples all over the rights of the individual.

I think Alan Shore would be delighted with these protests.

"The discussions on MySpace painted a different picture as students discussed how schools would be docked $50 for each student who did not attend."

Does anyone know if this is factually true? If so, the students should hold a second rally, to refuse to go back to school until all students who have had disciplinary actions taken against them by the schools be allowed to return to school with no repercussions.

Student strike. See how long the schools want to hold out, losing money.

Student strike I like it.

Great blogpost. Why isn't the blogosphere all over this and other important issues instead of arguing about the next web 2.0 thing? Maybe I'm hanging out in all the wrong places.

A bunch of wannabe-rebellious teenagers in Lala Land got riled up by some accomplished neo-Socialist organizers and decided it would be cool to cut class for a day and this is some awe inspiring event? I would be impressed if it happened here in the heart of Florida's citrus region where we actually tend to rely quite a bit on illegal Mexican labor. The fact that those doing the protesting are those in our society furthest removed from what they are protesting about speaks volumes.

I was in high school during the height of the Vietnam War at the end of the 60s and beginning of the 70s and the situation was very similar - lots of students were leaving school to be at protests, schools were clamping down to try and prevent it, and even then adults were complaining about apathetic youth.

Sad to see that not much has changed when our generation is in charge.

Keep up the great work, Danah!

What disappoints me the most is how school officials, law enforcement and the press handled the situation. We bitch about how young people are not politically engaged, but when they speak out for something that hegemonic society disapproves of, they are slapped down. Ah, the irony.

Maybe I'm just saying this because I'm young and haven't seen older adults act any different, but it seems representitive of the issues regarding control that a portion of our current 40something and 50something population have... Meaning, they have to be IN control at ALL times or else prone to fits of rage and threatening until they're back in control or they're given control of what they don't have control of.

Sometimes I wonder if the real reason some parents and persons in positions of authority are so upset over MySpace is because it's a sphere onto which they have no control...

Michael - most of the students who walked out in California are Latino and Mexican. They were not organized by adults - they organized themselves. While Florida definitely employs a huge immigrant workforce, the history of Mexican labor in California is long and sordid. Many of these kids would be directly affected by the bill - their parents and neighbors would be arrested. Because of geographical proximity, border dramas are a daily issue for those living in Southern California. Even more so than in Florida.

There were though protests in other parts of the country. The largest was Los Angeles with San Diego following. Throughout California, teens walked out. Latino kids also walked out in other states affected by immigration patterns, including Florida. Unfortunately, very little of this was covered by the press. At least the largest scale protests were.

Oren - yes... i am very disgusted by the Vietnam generation who, once in power, has reinstated the fucked up dynamics that it fought so hard against. I can't wait for the draft. ::grumble:: There's nothing like forcing others to go through what you went through to relieve yourself of your anger.

"As a population, teens are silenced by society, ineligible to vote."

Danah: They're also seldom held financially or socially responsible for their actions, get lighter prison sentences, have specific social protection applied to them by the government, and so on. "Silenced" makes minors ("teens" include those who are 18 and 19, after all) sound like some sort of oppressed sub-culture, when they're actually one of the most incredibly privileged sectors of any society in history.

"...but when they speak out for something that hegemonic society disapproves of, they are slapped down."

They didn't simply speak out. They could have done that on Saturday. They walked out of school, a place they're required to attend by law.

I'm not decrying the students' actions, by the way... I disagree with what I perceive as their political perspective, but I've got no problem with them standing up for something they believe. Controversial action comes with consequence, though.

::And people wonder why teens don't engage politically...

I think the better question is why they don't engage until they have a chance for a skip day?

::The coverage made them look stupid and naive and the commentator talked about how the youth were uninformed.

Most *people* are stupid, naive, and uninformed. It's pretty easy to find rambling incoherence in this country... up to and including high government office. Honestly, what you're describing seems to be an *absence* of media spin. We've all grown accustomed to seeing adult activists of all stripes given more credit as a whole than they deserve, so it really leaps out at ya when the press gives a more accurate picture of a situation.

::What is gained by belittling the students, punishing their act, and pooh-poohing their engagement with the public sphere?

What is gained by not questioning their motives, and allowing a rebellious act of social responsibility to have no repercussions on those responsible? A walk-out on the job is meaningless if you're not going to lose a day's pay, and a walk-out at school is trivial if it won't bite you on the ass.

Sian - please email me. Your email is bouncing.

Yeah, and Rosa Parks could have stood by the bus stop with a placard, but instead she got on and sat down in the front of that bus, a place she was prohibited from sitting by law.
The teens walked out because that way they got attention, and because once you have all those people together in one place, it's that much easier to get them to all leave at once. And even if it were JUST people wanting to get a day off school, what does that say about our school system, that kids are desperate enough to organize on such a massive scale just to get out of it.

"I'm quite curious what will happen to privileged society if all illegal immigrants are deported. Will there be a food shortage? How much will the cost of everything rise?"

--check out the movie A Day Without A Mexican.. which attempts to illustrate that particular point.

http://www.adaywithoutamexican.com/

I would find their actions much more impressive if they would spend any time outside of school protesting. However, as soon as three o'clock hit, the students were home.

Also, part of utilizing one's freedom of speech is realizing that there are consequences to that freedom of speech. If I were to miss work to go to a protest, there would be consequences to that. The students *should* be counted as truant unless their parents call and excuse their absences.

Why shouldn't we encourage legal immigration? I get so tired of people focusing on how illegals do the jobs that others don't want to. So we should continue to encourage business owners in their exploitation of these workers? That seems like a ridiculous solution.

Now, don't get me wrong, I didn't like the house bill either. However, I do believe we should have immigration laws. Every other country does. Why is it evil and racist when the U.S. does it?

Why is it evil and racist when the U.S. does it?

The laws themselves are not technically rascist, but the sentiments expressed by many anti-immigration supporters are. I live in Southern California, and I have recieved "letters" from Congressman David Dreier that are frankly misinformed and smack of rascist sentiments towards "Un-American" elements. Just because they've entered our country illegally doesn't mean mean these people aren't HUMAN. That's what supporters ultimately want - for all people to be treated humanely.

When most of you discuss the fanatical need for control that baby boomers have, you have no idea how right you are and you have no idea how intimadated they are by you.

I'll see your urban high schoolers and raise you some small-town junior high school students:

Students Protest Immigration Bill By Steve Caraway The Morning News

SPRINGDALE -- A group of students walked off the George Junior High School campus Tuesday morning in protest of proposed legislation affecting illegal immigrants.

The walkout, by 36 mostly Hispanic students, came after a national protest Friday drew extensive media coverage, especially in the Hispanic media.

"We had a couple of students who were very concerned over the issues," said David Nelson, George principal. "I think the other students joined in when the first ones suggested it."

The students walked off campus at the start of the school day, Nelson said. Some of the students were later picked up by parents, while others returned to class...

I immigrated to the US in 1999; it took a lot of time, money and emotional effort. It was a really hard thing to go through and I sometimes questioned if it was all worth it. Since I've been in America, I've paid my taxes, adapted to American culture (though I keep my culture at home) but haven't become a citizen because I plan at sometime to return home.

So for me, it really bothers me when people come to the country without having to go through the steps I went through. I wasn't rich, I didn't have a degree, I probably wasn't "desirable" but I went through the legal steps and have paid my dues since.

I now live in L.A. and I could tell you why from experience, illegal immigration doesn't work. The rich really benefit from it here. It does take away jobs from legal residents. Why? If you didn't have illegal workers, you'd have to pay more for the jobs to get people who wouldn't normally work them, work them. LA is expensive; a lot of people can't afford to work under the table except those who have no choice. Who does the help, really, in the long run? I'm sure a lot of people would take housekeeping jobs on the legal side but can't get them because most of the jobs are underpaid and under the table.

If you choose to go to a country, I fully believe you must go through the system and then be a part of that system.

A couple of things:

1) Students should be in school. If they decide to opt out and protest, there should be consequences. If they don't like those consequences, they can stay in school.

2) Which part of "illegal" in "illegal immigrant" confuses you? My grandfather got in line and came here legally. Illegal immigrants are line jumpers.

Tell you what - every time you go to the movies, I'll jump the line - and I'll tell you how I'm being oppressed when you complain.

One of the freedoms of our country is to protest or voice an opinion whenever and almost wherever you like. However, I think the kids are being misled on how to protest this H.R. 4437 bill.

To be heard correctly you need to act like you love this country. Not marching up and down the streets carrying another countries flag. And, not carrying the American flag only to light it on fire and burn it. If you are going to protest, show the love you have for this country and how you only want a better life for you and yours.

Now the H.R. 4437 bill a huge step in the right direction and will only make a better life for you and your kids when you grow up. Think about it. Our country has grown to 12+ million illegal immigrants in only a short period of time. If nothing is done now, then when your kids become teenagers or young adults. They will not have the luxuries and the lifestyles that we are afforded now. Why? Because the �American Way� as you see it now will be gone. Just look in places like Southern California. In some areas you would swear you were in another country.

Hordes of immigrants coming into our country will undoubtedly bring their bad cultures as well. So in the end all they are doing is leaving a bad life in one country and porting it to another.

Now don't get me wrong. Not all immigrants are bad. But without a regulated flow and accountability of who is coming in. You are going to get the gang bangers and thugs from those countries as well and that is what I am totally against.

I am a student, and I have never participated in a walk out. My reason is that my daily education is more important to me than the tiny bits the students rallying the walk out deign to broadcast; for the past five years, all I've heard is, "We're doing a walk out. Let's go!"

A fair percentage of these students, on the other hand, actually DID know what they were marching for.

If a law is not just, you do not obey it.

Rosa Parks did something illegal. In fact, that was the whole reason she was special. She decided not to obey the law. Neither did Gandhi. The entire point is intentional disobedience of the law.

Remember that the law is a constantly changing corpus. It reflects the beliefs and norms of society, and allows for the reconciliation between differing viewpoints. What is legal today may be illegal tomorrow, because we've decided it's wrong. What's illegal today may be legal tomorrow, because we've decided it's fine. What's undecided may be either, because society has changed its beliefs.

Illegal means that society says it's wrong. Protestors make it a point to disagree with that. To purposefully disobey the law is to demonstrate that point; these students couldn't declare themselves non-citizens, so they disobeyed a different law: walking out of class.

My parents got in line and got here legally, too. But if they hadn't, they wouldn't have been much worse off.

If you had to jump the line because someone would have shot you if you hadn't, I wouldn't stop you. I'd help you in, assuming he didn't move onto me, next. In which case, hell, why should I rate your survival over mine?

Much better to let the other guy get shot, huh? Like penguins crowding the cliff; the unlucky one falls in, and if he's eaten, well, at least no one else was. That's ethical egoism for you.

I am a current high school student and we had a walk-out last wednesday. Although our school administration did not agree with it and niether did the police, they let us go on. They never tried to stop us from leaving campus. Before I participated in this event I made sure I was well informed. Severe punishment from schools is not acceptable. The most schools are allowed to do is give a student the same punishment they would recieve if they were cutting class. Many students were worried and complaining that they may face suspension, but in my eyes, so what, if they suspend me, its for something I believe in. I rest better at night knowing I did not keep my mouth closed and not stood up for what I believed in. The school's may not prevent us from participating in a political protest. Yes, the media did cover those students who had no idea why they were out there and were just there so they had a reason not to attend school but most of the students out there were well informed. We had a teacher last friday say;

" All students who participated in the walk-out last wednesday are stupid. You are students, you have no rights as of yet. And besides, illegal immigrants have no rights so what are they fighting for? Rights that dont't exist. If all you are going to do is walk down the street saying "Viva la Mexico" then all your asking for is to get shot. If you are SO proud of being Mexican then go back to Mexico. So if you don't like it here then get out. Or keep your mouth shut and go to school."

I was hurt by this. Tears swelled in my eyes because his words were full of hate. We had other students walk around campus with an American flag chanting "KILL THEM ALL!!" while other holding banners with the American flag and underneath stating "Don't Let Them In!" Other students called Latinos ignorant and stupid saying all Latinos have to do is apply for citizenship as soon as we get in the country and we would have nothing to complain about. Ignorant? Latinos? NO, ignortant are they who say that, if it were truly that easy we would not have this problem. Many immigrants do so, spend thousands and thousands on lawyers to be able to get citizenship and get booted out of the country anyways. My reply to them was next time be more well informed next time you say ignorant things. Too bad ignorance isn't bliss right?

What ever happened to give me your hungry, give me your poor?

You said 'In some towns, teens were charged with truancy for participating in the protest. Many students are faced with detentions and other punishments for their participation.'

So? Frankly those kids should be punished (Disclaimer: I support their cause), but if you are going to protest then you should actually be accountable for your actions.

Little pissed me off more than those in the Vietnam era that dodged the draft by going to Canada as opposed to going to prison for their beliefs.

If you believe in your cause enough to protest, then you should believe in your cause enough to handle the punishment. It shows commitment and makes your protest that much more important.

Look at the effectiveness of moveon.org where to join a protest all you have to do is click on a link versus the effectiveness of Cindy Sheehan. Granted the troops are still in Iraq, but she brought more attention to her movement, then a damn internet petition.

Protesting should be more involved and should involve actual committment.

These walkout students are lame. They want an excuse to A) get out of school, and B) join the many other students who think that it is cool to be a liberal. Bleeding heart liberals don't think about the realistics of how this nation works. Yes, we need immigrants, but we don't need the illegal ones. THEY ARE CALLED ILLEGAL FOR A REASON, BECAUSE WE CAN'T SUPPORT THEM. THE EFFECTS OF UNCONROLLED IMMIGRATION WOULD BE HARMFUL TO THE NATION'S CURRENT CITIZENS. I am a student FOR tougher immigration laws.

i thing that is cool wat you are saing cous i am mexican

thank you for the article. it is very inspiring reading.

it proves that american kids not so simple-minded as they percieved here in europe.

Many Italian high school students cut school to join protests against the war in Iraq when it began. It was obvious that some/many of them knew little and cared less about the issues, and were just out to have fun and join the crowd and cut school. Many went to Rome for the Pope's funeral, for less than religious motivations.

But no one censured or punished them for it, and the schools didn't lose any money.

For one, immigrants who work, legally or not, pay taxes. Second, no not all students protested to cut school. Yes, many did BUT those who knew what they were protesting about did it because that's what they believed so don't classify everyone into one group.

"For good reason, many Americans are outraged by HR 4437"

I beg to differ, Americans are not outraged by HR4437, they overwhelmingly support border enforcement. I believe the latest poll was somewhere around 80%.

Unfortunately, I think all the protests are going to prove extremely counterproductive to the intended cause and will serve to have the opposite outcome.

Why? Because most of America watching that on their TV's at home are not feeling supportive what-so-ever to the plight of illegal aliens. And, please put aside all the PC words meant to disguise the fact they are here illegally like “undocumented immigrants” Americans are not fooled by that or buying into it. What Americans are is incredulous and angry.

INCREDULOUS that what is claimed to be shadow-people, victims of their status living in abject fear of being found and deported are supposedly marching in the streets in plain sight waving signs, fists and Mexican flags while screaming demands from podiums into a microphone for the 'rights' they forewent when they entered this country illegally. That's some audacity!

ANGRY and getting madder with every image of the American flag being burned or usurped by other country's flags on our own soil. Angrier at every sign waved that references "stolen land" by some know-nothing student that should be in school learning about the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, the Gadsden Purchase, Santa Anna and The New Mexico Purchase so that they could realize how truly ignorant they are. Angry that children of illegal aliens could attend college at discounted rates much lower than American children are even eligible for.

The most important thing that should be pointed out though to anyone on that side of the illegal immigration issue is that……. Angry Americans can and will VOTE, enmasse!, not illegal immigrants & not high-school student surrogate protestors thrilled for a ditch-day.

Hell, the illegal protestors don’t even have the support of legal immigrants, because legal immigrants are even more pissed that after spending tens of thousands of dollars and years of time and effort some band of protesting illegal aliens are demanding to jump in front of them in the legalization line.

Americans (apparently everyone but McCain and Kennedy) learned that Amnesty doesn’t work. In 1986 Reagan offered amnesty and legalized 4 million illegals, who were promptly replaced with more than 12 million more. Is there any other possible outcome to another amnesty bill legalizing the 12 million plus that followed the first amnesty wave than for them to be replaced by yet another 30-50 million illegals biding their time till the next bill?

Yas,

No, illegals do not pay taxes & I speak from personal knowledge. I worked for a company for several years that employed illegals and amazingly enough, every single one of them, all 80 or so were "married with 9 children" (otherwise known as tax-exempt).

Don't kid yourself, I did the payroll, I saw it first-hand. Apparently it's common knowledge how to by-pass the tax system.

i think that if this law passes the united staes will be different in this way who is going to do the work that the immigrants do like the mexican like get straberrys. they probley they will pay them more and get the twice that the mexicans do or any immigrant they will have problems will some countrys like there trades and the will have a lot of problems

i think that if this law passes the united staes will be different in this way who is going to do the work that the immigrants do like the mexican like get straberrys. they probley they will pay them more and get the twice that the mexicans do or any immigrant they will have problems will some countrys like there trades and the will have a lot of problems. then all the hight school will have less students in the hole state and country

mega walkout
this monday 4/10/06 walkout from your school with a group of protester and reach nearest political building. walkout after period 1 and if theres a lockdown walkout during nutrition.
when you reach a school scream "walkout" to convinst students to walkout. post it in myspace and tell students.

Hey Danah,u really can talk. All the shit{in a good way} u said is 100% true. At my school {Manatee Middle School} we're ganna do some thing to, we hope other schools in our area see and get with us, cuz the more people that get invalved the beter.I'm from Naples, but it looks like my school is the only one that cares cuz Lely, North Naples,East Nples,Gulf something,Edison,and Naples high dont like they give a fuck.But the most fucked-up thing is that my gang{SANGRE LATINA} wants to help out and ussualy they'er like"yeah,yeah,yeah,what ever u think we give a fuck man,go away we're smoking weed{cuz it's a need u know}"but now they'er like"4get weed, u and Lil Choka, find out as much as u can and just tell us when the time comes to make a move" they would find out if they could but they cant cuz they are wanted 4 some shit they did,and they dont have family,well not since they got into Sangre Latina,and they arent able to go to school cuz they'll get killed literaly by Sur 13 or La Raza or Vatos Locos or 13 Kings ar Broun Pride or some other wangsters that cant actsept the fact that we'er real. we are called Sangre Latina 4 2 things 1-we have Sangre Latina and 2-we defend Sangre Latina no mater how bad, stupid, retarded, or fucked up they are. And thats exactly what we r ganna do now,its like 4get the ganges what we got to care about now is this shit.
Once again u really can talk, I'll keep cheking up on this site see ya soon Dandh, what I mean is see u'r web site soon,later

I read the many commments regarding HR4437 and illegal immigration. I really don't understand the mentality of people who welcome with open arms the millions of ILLEGAL aliens into this country. My family immigrated LEGALLY from Germany four generations ago. My great-grandparents learned to speak English and assimilated into society. There is a distinct difference in legal and illegal immigration.

Illegal immigrants from ALL countries are a drain on our economy. Figures show that taxpayers spend an average of $55,000 on every illigal alien. It is not right that my tax dollars should pay for the education, health care and other expenses for people who break the law. I hear the argument all the time that "Migrant workers do work that Americans won't do." What a farce. Americans will do any job you give them, we just won't do it for $3.00 and hour. American workers can't compete with illegal workers because of huge differences overhead.

And another thing that upsets me is that many of the illegal aliens seem to simply refuse to learn our language. Why should we have to become bi-lingual or print everything in English and Spanish? Why not print all signs in Vietnamese, Mandarin, Arabic, etc. for the rest of the immigrants? Many times at my company I receive calls from people and the first thing they say is "Habla Espanol?" I always say "Sorry, this is the USA. I speak English."

We went through this same problem back in 1986. Only then is was 3 million illegal aliens we gave amnesty to with the promise that we'd close the border.

1986 = 3 million & promise to stop the flow
2006 = 11 million & promise to stop the flow
2026 = ?? million & promist to stop the flow

When does it finally stop?

Well enough ranting, I'm sure it won't do any good. I'm on the way out the door to make my protest signs for the "pro immigrant march" here in Fort Worth tomorrow.

Support HR4437. Enforce the law. Close the borders.

Hey Kat You son of a bitch,Why dont you shut the fuck up,cuz obviesly u dont have a clue about, all u r is a dick sucking white ass stuck up dumb ass.And yes illegal imigrants do pay taxes and dont get a singal penny back.so what if Im just a 8th grader it looks like your dumber than me,actualy ur dumber than a box of rocks.I know that they do pay taxes cuz my half sister pays taxes, so do my uncols and aunts. and tell me when have ever burned your fucked up flag hu bitch when? and as 4 u mike it's not that thes people refuse 2 learn your language its just that they dont have the time 2 cuz they are so busy working in the fields so u can have your good red and fresh tomatoes,and so they can getpayed 2 take a peac of bread 2 ther mouth, and Im not saying that all people r in that condition but some of them r.Others just dont have the money 2 take private classes like you do dumb ass. and you know what ya'll r in the position u r thanks 2 us so dont say that we dont do shit 4 ur dumb ass country. those that can acsept the truth ya'll know that ur no one with out us. ".... bad, stupid, retarded, or fucked up they are." When I put this in in the last text I put in dont get afended my latino brathas and sistas cuz what i ment was no mater how bad,stupid,retarded or fucked up "SOME" can be. and back 2 you 2 white people u should go shuting the fuck up cuz if i new wher u lived me and my gang SANGRE LATINA would go over ther and beat your ass 2 the ground not 2 deth cuz we dont want those problems,at least not now, maybe after this immigration thing has calmed down but not now.and yes we "latinos" are ganna keephoulding our armes out to our incomeing race. oh and mike if you dont want 2 keep paying for them then bitch go back 2 Germany. and you Kat u shold really shut da fuck up. one more thing "VIVA LATINO-AMERICA,Y QUE VIVA MEXICO" MEXICAN PRIDE 4 LIFE HEAR DAT 4 LIFE

Hey Kat You son of a bitch,Why dont you shut the fuck up,cuz obviesly u dont have a clue about, all u r is a dick sucking white ass stuck up dumb ass.And yes illegal imigrants do pay taxes and dont get a singal penny back.so what if Im just a 8th grader it looks like your dumber than me,actualy ur dumber than a box of rocks.I know that they do pay taxes cuz my half sister pays taxes, so do my uncols and aunts. and tell me when have ever burned your fucked up flag hu bitch when? and as 4 u mike it's not that thes people refuse 2 learn your language its just that they dont have the time 2 cuz they are so busy working in the fields so u can have your good red and fresh tomatoes,and so they can getpayed 2 take a peac of bread 2 ther mouth, and Im not saying that all people r in that condition but some of them r.Others just dont have the money 2 take private classes like you do dumb ass. and you know what ya'll r in the position u r thanks 2 us so dont say that we dont do shit 4 ur dumb ass country. those that can acsept the truth ya'll know that ur no one with out us. ".... bad, stupid, retarded, or fucked up they are." When I put this in in the last text I put in dont get afended my latino brathas and sistas cuz what i ment was no mater how bad,stupid,retarded or fucked up "SOME" can be. and back 2 you 2 white people u should go shuting the fuck up cuz if i new wher u lived me and my gang SANGRE LATINA would go over ther and beat your ass 2 the ground not 2 deth cuz we dont want those problems,at least not now, maybe after this immigration thing has calmed down but not now.and yes we "latinos" are ganna keephoulding our armes out to our incomeing race. oh and mike if you dont want 2 keep paying for them then bitch go back 2 Germany. and you Kat u shold really shut da fuck up. one more thing "VIVA LATINO-AMERICA,Y QUE VIVA MEXICO" MEXICAN PRIDE 4 LIFE HEAR DAT 4 LIFE

mega walkout
this monday 4/10/06 walkout from your school with a group of protester and reach nearest political building. walkout after period 1 and if theres a lockdown walkout during nutrition.
when you reach a school scream "walkout" to convinst students to walkout. post it in myspace and tell students.

I hate to differ or argue with you, but my city hall was one of the beseiged on Monday. It is one thing to walk like MLK, but what I heard and saw did NOT remind me of the great causes of the 1960's.

Picture this---400 students in the street approaching City Hall. The 'leader' up front, was walking with baggy jeans and a wife-beater t-shirt (do they allow that in school today?). He had a Mexican flag in one hand and a cigarette in the other. As part of the group marched, 20-40 students DROVE UP as they were too overweight or out of shape to walk in solidarity for the cause!

When my Irish City Manager attempted to speak to the group (at their request). He spoke Spanish to them out of respect and members of the crowd shouted "Shut up Whitey" and "Speak English".

I attempted to speak to a group of the students on the side, asking for there input, I was told (and I quote), "We are here against immigration"! One of the lot changed it to "for immigration". A teenager Hispanic female said, "we are for open borders...check it out...I am here for 'my moms', right, fuck that immigration shit, right, fo' real...they are trying to deport 'my moms'" and etc.

Many in the group were smoking with one student actually smoking a Blunt (w/o the marijuana) in front of an administrator.

All in all, I was not impressed. The group spit on at least one car, punched a man's window and threw water bottles at it as it past because the driver had the nerve to display an American flag on it!!

The kids I saw protesting did not know anything about the law, they did not know what they were doing there other than cutting class and otherwise seemed like the dregs of the class of their school.

Miquel and Mike Arnold's posts above are really illustrative of the problem. WHAT are the schools teaching?! Mike seems like the angry youth I met on Monday! All venom (completely with the ghetto mouth) and little substance. He especially has his facts mixed up.

For one thing, only 23% of illegal aliens work harvesting crops. Many others have taken over construction jobs and other better paying positions at the expense of legal immigrants and American workers. Even Caesar Chavez was AGAINST illegal immigrations!!

As for taxes paid, the amount of taxes paid cannot make up for the cost of illegal immigration when it comes to unpaid health care costs and other mandated, unfunded expenditures. YES, SOME illegal aliens pay SOME taxes (via the use of illegal social security numbers), but many pay NO TAXES working for cash, under the table!

As for language (and I am not referring to the use of the foul language used here), many illegals do not learn English NOT because they are too busy, but because they DO NOT HAVE TO, what will all the pathetic accomodation---"press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish". Spanish language radio, ATMs with Spanish, etc., etc. IF Spanish speakers really cared about learning English, they would NEVER listen to Spanish radio, they would NOT buy "Hoy". Instead they would emerse themselves in American culture, remembering who they are; remembering their culture, but becoming 'American', NOT Mexicans LIVING in America.

Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house, put flag decals on my car and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Sincerely,

David

Mike,

Why the language? Why the anger? You should be angry at the corrupt government of Mexico instead of threatening us here.

For all your gang bravado and CRAP (that's what all gangs are---CRAP), you don't even have the cajoles to list your email address! WHAT A COWARD AND A PUTZ!!

Hey David,
I got to actcept that their are some people that do not pay taxes and that their is kids like the ones u said and yeah they dont know shit of what is going on. But their is also people that know what the fuck is up. I defended these illigal immigrants like fuck and 4 a short period of time i lost interest cuz 2 c that I have family that r here illigaly and they dont care its like y should I I'm here ligaly but u know what made me change my mind,the sight of watching your fucked up white people burn my flag my wonderful Mexican flag, and u know what I promis that as soon as I get my hands on a U.S. flag I'm ganna do the same and I dont give a fuck if I get haled of to juvi. If ya'll want 2 c blod run ok then but I can tell u that it wont be latino blod, it'll b white blod and you know what I'm not scared of any of u white mother fuckers u want to know where i live, I'll tell u call me at 1 800 chinga tu madre putos gringos. then i'll tell u where u can go to c me. And here's a heads up I'm not called BABY KILLA 4 no reason, BABY cuz I'm the 2nd youngest in the gang and KILLA cuz I've killed b4 and unless u want 2 b next bitch back of. u know that since ya'll white people dont play fair
I'll have LIL' CHOKA hanging around, watch out 4 her to cuz well cuz her name says it all but incase u white people cant tell it's LIL' cuz shes the youngest and choka cuz she gots the balls 2 choke some one and she has and she'll keep chokeing till death just like I'll keep killing 2 death and all together SANGRE LATINA will keep defending our race

p.s.watch your back
gingos malditos
y putos
peac out,
Baby Killa

Get illegals out! What's wrong with you people? Has this nation become a bunch of pansies? Illegal immigrants marching in the streets? Try that in China; you'd be shot on site!

..David you do have a good point but dose people dont only come to take the jobs or do such things..Most of them work hard to were they are its extremely hard for them to find anything..Its not a piece of cake you know and that list you made 1-13 come on they dont all get that...Its like the pot its boiling over and your finally all freaking worried of what the Hispanics are doing now you want them out...So many excuses every one feels and whats to be free...What if one day they were all gone..What then thats what you guys want..SO think about that and tell me..What will happen next?

I think this bill is good and bad but most peolpe here dont now whats going on and thats sad and after reading a couple of thes articles i think most of you kinda have a clue just like me this bill is dumb because that isnt fare that their wasting money on a stupid wall that they are going to make here in El Paso where i live and that over all all the immigrants that come here and im not only talking about the mexicans also the cubins chines japanis ect..come here and do all the work that us americans dont even bother concider doing but they dont mind and they make stores here

now these are some reasons that i think this bill should go through because all the immigrants that come here and that dont have papers need to go back because they'er not fileing for taxes and they use up all the taxes we give and were the ones giveing loads and loads of mony to the government for these immigraters to live here and live off our parents money that isnt fare.

SO AMERICA THINK ABOUT IT?

"Where is Cesar Chavez when you need him?" Chavez favored deporting illegal alien workers because they threatened the jobs and wages of union workers. (The bosses and landowners liked the cheap labor) Caesar was not a Mexican, rather Arizona-born, of Yacci Indian heritage.

Corey, illegals rn't going any where.nothing is wrong with us dumbass, whats wrong whith u? Here's something new bitch we r not in China so stop fucking araoud.

Cindy, shut the fuck up cuz all that u can say is shit

bitch that didnt have the balls 2 put ther name in,u 2 should shut the fuck up cuz u 2 cant say anything but shit

p.s.all u gringos can go 2 hell. and yall shold really stop pikeing on us Mexicans cuz yall r geting me sike of your shit

If you think the USA is so great why are you carrying the mexican flag. Take your protests south of the boarder, so we can shut the gates behind you.

baby killa,

You're an idiot.

Goodluck in prison:)

I am human, you are human, we all are human. We are living beings capable of so much wonder but often we insist on destroying each other. I accept your opinions and I would be grateful if you accepted mine. I am amazed by all the racism that I witness on a daily basis. I don't care if you're "white" or "mexican" or "japanesse" or any other label you choose to give yourself. How boring would this world be if we didn't have so many creative minds and different cultures to learn from? I wish you could all understand all the wonderful things that we can learn from each other. Ignorance is such a blister. Why do we have to threat others who do not agree with our views? Why must we be in a constant battle to show superiority? Why must we resort to violence to silence our opponent? I am depressed by how this issue has been turned into racism from both sides. As far as I'm concerned, EVERYONE has feelings, EVERYONE has opinions and EVERYONE has agency through which they can express their beliefs but NEVER should this agency come at the cost of another person. I treat others as equal and I expect to be treated that way. If for some reason someone can not treat me as an equal I will speak to them and hope they respond yet if that is impossible then I will walk away and continue my marry way somewhere else.

gosh im so happy 2 be a mexican and c how my race is standing up 4 dem selfs.....viva mexicanos!

HR 4437 WILL HELP THE US PEOPLE FIGHT THE CRIME OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. PEOPLE NEED TO TREAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AS A CRIME. hR 4437 IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS.

David:

Just FYI. I'm the one posting against illegal immigration, not for it.

Mike Arnold

MIKE ARNOLD and MIGUEL go back to school. You guys are only contradicting yourselves, and it's rather embarressing to our culture. Your showing nothing, but ignorance.

DAVID find yourself somene to soften your heart. One thing is to make some good political points, and another is to offend people with your sarcasm.

BABYKILLA..... no comment.

Black, Brown, Red, White, or Yellow.. we are ONE LOVE people...don't forget that.

zaira ilegal immagrants DO pay taxes you dont know shit so shut yo mouth and stay in yo little fucked up world cuz or 1 we aint livin off of yo fucking fat azz parents money and 2 you a bitch we work our fucking azzes off so that we can support our families we do the jobs that you fucking gringos say are to hard bitch talk what ya know not lies and unless you wanna get fucked up i advice u keep yo mouth shut and kat i pray to the lord that you fucking burn in hell yall bitches need to FUCK OFF and watch yo backs and one more thing kat why you got yo fucking nose up other peoples business

hey ilegal immigrants are breaking the law.....they can break the law and it is okay, but whne americans break the law it is wrong. they dont want to give american felons amesty if they come to our country they need to respect our laws.. they dont respect our laws.....they think they can break the law and get rewarded. this is not mexican against white it is americans citizens againts those who are not...viva estado unidos.... damn insted of protesting you need to address the problems that are destroying your race. ilegal immigration is not the problem you need to protest. you need to stop the drug abuse and gangs that are robbing your race of the honnor and respect it deserves. i am the third generation of my family to be born in the us and feel hr 4437 is what needs to be done. this is our home.. we need to defend it...viva estado unidos hey insted of flying the mexican flag..fly the american flag.. this is america aint it. viva estado unidos hey do you think ceaser chavez would support ilegal aliens once again viva estado unidos

about this bill i think that this bill is stupid because even though it was wrong for them to sneek into this country whats is so wrong with wanting to live a new and better life without getting hassled by america whats wrong with wanting to have money and decent food to eat and good cloths on their back and just wanting to be happy and having a nice house to live nothing everybody want that for themself am i wrong if you have something to say and you want to say it personally to me go to my myspace.

I aggree with Fabiola. Although my first language was Spanish, I was speaking fluent English by the time I was in school. If you type a 120+ word paragraph without a period, while mis-spelling every other word, then you shouldn't be protesting. Or posting here for that matter. You should be spending your time learning English,(it's our language).

Brittany, I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to live here. Everyone in the world should have the same amount of freedom and prosperity as we do here in the U.S. The debate is who gets to decide who lives here, foreigners or Americans? I personally think each country has a right to decide how to handle its own immigration. Should we be allowed to tell Mexico, Australia, China, etc... who WILL be immigrating to their country, whether they like it or not?

There's a process that people must go through to come to the U.S. Are you saying that everyone in the world has a set of rules that they must abide by to become a U.S. citizen, but Mexicans entering illegally are exempt from these laws? Not really fair to legal immigrants who respect our laws, is it?

Christian(and other racist Mexicans posting here), what the hell is wrong with Mexico? Why doesn't anyone want to live there? Why is it considered such a shithole? I ask because you are living in a country you hold in such contempt, and with Mexico no more than 2000 miles away from you, you choose to live here.

What can Mexico do to climb out of its current situation? Should ALL Mexicans move to the U.S.? Would that solve Mexicos problems? Has Mexico improved ever since it's citizens have been rushing to get out? Has Vicente Fox encouraged his citizens to leave? Has he encouraged them to stay?

Awaiting your answers.

Ok guys, the name of the person writing the comment is AT THE BOTTOM OF THE COMMENT, not the top. Geez. I'm the articulate guy against illegal immigration, not one of the foul mouthed people for it. Those are the people who can't argue with facts so the try to intimidate you and curse you.

hi, my name is cindy, im an immigrant from peru n i think im gonna die like one. probably my opinion wont count for you guys because as we all know this decision depends of only one person on this entire country. things are differents on each generation, some of us were capable to learn even more than one language which make us superior and even more easy to comunicates with different cultures. be called an immigrnats means be called criminal, we are violating a country's laws and refusing to go back to our original country. but have u ever ask urself why do people immigrate from their country? i keep asking me this every single night...i came to the united states when i was 16 yrs old..i left behind all my future next the people who really care about me , my family, to be honest with you i didnt like the idea of learning another language and learn so many different cultures...i just realized that this is kind of cool..i think that's why people in this country are so smart... they gotta learn more every single day of their entire lifes.
i immigrated to this country because my country is completly out of control, we need someone who really cares about the country and not about its advantages of being part of the political things.
our future generations have no support by anybody..kids gotta work since they learned how to cry...things are gettin worst day by day...i came here to learn as much as possible you let me do...
i read all your comments and im totally agree with those people who said that they can do the same work as immigrants do..but let me tell you something... people who work hard only for $3 per hpur or even less... make get products even cheaper...thats why we can get potates for $1 instead of payin $5 for the same potatoes...
immigrats dont only reffers to hispanic people.. we are talking about indians, french, italians, germans, japanese, irish, etc... we are talkin about all kind of cultures, which some of us are mixed up with...
please... don't think that the only think we want from your country is steal your money... many of our immigrant population pay their own taxes as i do it and as all the people i kno do it too...we pay the same prices as you do it... we don't get free medical assistant unless u are in high school almost dying..we don't get free food as you guys say, because when we pay our rent or house bills we are payin for all those "benefits" that your country offer to our children...matter fact right after ur childhood you are completly unprotected from any kind of institution...
we are only skin for your permission to ake all things right and legal, the increasin of your population will benefits you with the alliances with other nations and also your economic status...think about as much we work as much we gotta spend and pay you guys..
also how better will the next american generation will be?? n how good will they represent your own country???
we just need your help...you will never know how hard is for us to survive in our own country..im only 18 years old and my life is stuck jus for a simple name...immigrant
thnx for take your time to read this
have a good night

If Schools dont want to lose money they should encourage that the bill should be denied.How do teachers want students to learn when they are baing affected by such law. I too am Hispanic but I too am affected by this action which is not the best thing to do. latinos are our Future. without mexicans who is going to do the dirty work of landscaping, Concrete, factory working, No ONE.. So I ask you Do you think it is the right thing to do

I think we might be confusing "immigration/immigrant" with "illegal immigration/immigrant". NO ONE thinks immigrants are criminals.

Americans are NOT against immigration, but against an unchecked immigration policy. Honestly, I don't see how anyone can disagree with that.

Am I understanding that what some here are proposing, is to allow ANYONE who wants to enter this country? Is there a country on this planet with this type of an "open-borders" policy?

i believe ,from what i'm hearing/reading in the media,that most mexicans(from mexico) are indeed in favor of a completely open border .they're not informed of how the american system works.basically they want to live here under and withing their terms and laws that they believe should treat them with partiality as a race.apparantly the hispanics that are out there protesting,want to be treated with the same partiality that in time,was given to the black race. and at the risk of sounding racist(which i'm not)we can all see just what resulted from that. i'm for a strongly enforced border and swift arrest and returned alien,dare he cross.and if they want to be violent in crossing illegally then they desrve exactly what's dealt!
i can't think of any other country that would let people invade their country's border at will without that country initiating force to disable the invader!if mexico wants into the u.s. then they need to do it legally and learn to obey OUR laws,not expect us to change our laws to their satisfaction and comfortability!! in fact...it seems as though that describes most of the protestors. we have an awful lot of school buses in this country and it probably wouldn't take much to get enough drivers(voluntarily)to drive the protestors on may 1st straight to the border so they can go home. to stay! what i believe will happen is that for as many that don't show up at work on may 1st(without notifying their place of work before hand,that they'll not be in)..almost that many will (hopefully)lose their jobs.and i hate to break to the no shows,but there ARE american's that need and will replace those positions that were willingly given up by those no shows!!it's going to be fun to see the backlash occur. all because of a bunch of macho acting/thinking illegal aliens.

Yea Nobody saying immigrants are criminals but they treating them like one..I was born here but i come from hispanic backgrounds..my parents as well born here and just by watching the news ery day and hearing bout them it hurts even tho you aint one.Yea and ppl wondered why are they here?Is so many reasons why alot of them are here,most of them are here because of a better job and life...ppl don look at reasons so many kids struggle every day in other countries for food and for a home..ppl immigrants are here for a better place and jobs because in their countries are not that opportunities.We dont come to take over we come here for a better life.Each immigrant is treated as a criminal and call names everyday..but they keep looking ahead..and working hard..have you ever seen yo self in there place?na and you dont want to be..is not such a thing as been treated and humiliated as a criminal everyday jus for not giving them permission to be here legaly!..And how do they suppose to obey the laws when you dont give them they equal treatment.Alot of you might desagree with me but america would be nothing without immigrants!.

I think immigrants should be here legaly..because they hard working ppl i don undersand why is it such a big deal..i really think that if they don pass the law this country will...umg lets put it this way..it would really bad for all yaw who dont want immigrants here..if yaw dont want them here get over it!!because if this law is not approve..you still will see them here everyday..Dont be like that because like the hero Rosa Parks got here freedom and equal treatment after all the time the will get it!!!!!one day but they will

I think immigrants should be here legaly..because they hard working ppl i don undersand why is it such a big deal..i really think that if they don pass the law this country will...umg lets put it this way..it would really bad for all yaw who dont want immigrants here..if yaw dont want them here get over it!!because if this law is not approve..you still will see them here everyday..Dont be like that because like the hero Rosa Parks got here freedom and equal treatment after all the time the will get it!!!!!one day but they will

As all of you know the country is once again on the subject of illegal immagrants and it seems that every so often we choose to fight back on the immagration problem we have in this country.

My parents came to this country from Guatemala and Mexico over 33 years ago. They came with the idea that there was something better out there for them and they were going to find it. They didnt come with intentions of meeting someone from the opposite sex , falling in love and having a children. They were hard working people in their respected countrys and were looking to improve their lives, and thats it. They both were looking for what unfortunately their own countrys could not offer them. My parents are now well over 55 and still work as hard as they did when they arrived in this country when they were 25 and 26 years old. They didnt come to take anything away from anyone, or intentionally cause problems for anyone. My parents are now American citizens and have a child that is as American as anyone else. I love this country and I thank god that I was born in this country. Not take anything away from Mexico and other Latin countrys but I am happy to be an American. Although when im asked what nationality I am I sometimes say im Guatemalan, American, or Mexican, American, or both Mexican, Guatemala, American. I do that because I will not forget where my family came from and what they had to do. This whole Immagration problem does not physicaly affect me since my parents are Amrecian Citizens, but it hurts to see that people just like them are trying to do the samething they did and achieve the same goals they did. It's 30 years later and those countrys are still not offering enough to make those people stay in their own countrys. Maybe instead of bombing other countrys and killing our own during wars we should look upon our own wars in our own country. Like poverty (thanks angie) drugs, violence and helping countrys that dont have the resources to help each other to keep their own people in their own country. Im sure if my parents were well off or at least comfortable in their own country's and being paid an honest wage for an honest days hard work they would have never came to this country. These people we call alliens would rather stay in their own country and live with their familys and not have to go to someone else's land and change their way of life but they do it because they have to. It's true we have an immagration problem in this country, I will not deny the facts. I also think that were going about it the wrong way to fix this problem and my arguement is with idiots that say that immagrants are ruining this country, and that immagrants are taking all the jobs, and their costing us money to have them here. To the people that say this, i say this....this country will answer to some of your demands but not all and not the ones you want the most, because some of us have not forgoten that the country you call yours was not always yours and if the reall land lords of this country would have demanded the same things you are demanding now you wouldnt be here and I wouldnt be here and we wouldnt be having this issue. someone gave you a chance but your not willing to give someone else a chance. what does that make you? I know what it makes you, it makes you un american. An american to me is a good person, a person that does not turn his or her back on someone in need, an american has the luxury to say that he or she lives in the best country in the world and can change this world for the best....thats what an american is....So with that off of my chest i say to my people,

Que siga la marcha, I no se dejen!

Will Lozano, it seems the only reason you're fighting for illegal immigrants is because they're "your people", as you say. Then you accuse as "un-american", those of us who put America first over some ethnic or foreign national allegiance. Is there a reason(other than "your people" want to cross it) why the U.S. should be the only country in the world with absolutely no control of it's borders?

Also, can you point out what "idiot" said that "immigrants are ruining this country"? That sounds made up(I only hear that from pro-illegals).

One last thing, I'm not familiar with the "I" in "I no se dejen!". Was that a typo? Just curious.

Well, it took me a while to read all the articles and I must say Im really disappointed. First of all, all the child gangbangers...shut up estupido! You're making anyone remotely Mexican look bad! I am twenty years old and have been working ever since I was 13 (I know its not legal, but I was raised to work hard). I became a legal citizen at age 15, after being in this country since I was 3 years old. I am one of very few lucky immigrants. Someone wrote that illegal immigrants have a lower tuition? Where do you get your facts from? BC I have NEVER heard of this, and believe me I know alot of illegal college students who are paying full, non-resident tuition (which is VERY expensive) here in California. Many say that immigrants don't pay taxes? Im sure there are cases of that being true, but believe me, about 70-80% of illegal workers that I know, pay taxes and they are uneligable for "free healthcare" or any other government service. I know there is free healthcare for CHILDREN, no matter of their citizen status, but there is no such service for adults. And I believe that is right. Why should a three year old child suffer for their parent's decisions?

Another argument that I am hearing alot is the whole "cutting in line" theory. I have a SISTER who is the only illegal immigrant left in my family. She has been here for 18 years, and makes more than 80k a year. She has achieved more than the average american citizen. She's NEVER recieved free healthcare, NEVER been on disability, NEVER been on welfare and NEVER been on unemployment. Is this the kind of people you want to keep out of the US? When there are THOUSANDS of CITIZENS DRAINING the government on wealfare, and other bullshit programs? (I know some are wondering how she's able to work, and before you jump to any conclusions know that she has her OWN ssn. 18 years ago, ANYONE could get an ssn, thus she has her own). My point is, how is it that my sister, who is doing VERY well, hasn't been able to achieve legal status? She's been on the waiting list for about 10 years already. Most immigrants that achieve legal status the 'RIGHT' way are fortunate enough to have a short waiting period. My sister has waited 10 YEARS and about a year ago, INS told my father that she has about 10 more years to wait before she can become a permanent resident. I am SO SURE! that impovrished Mexicans are willing to starve for 20 fucking years just so that they don't cut in front of this damn "line". Right, buddy thats being real realistic! These waiting lists differ from country to country so Canada's waiting list is FAAAR shorter than Mexico's or any other impovrished country.

I know there are a lot of americans who don't see this bill as racist. But I truly see it differenlty. I do not believe that the gov wants to rid themselves of cheap labor. If anyone has taken sociology or econ clases they'll know that cheap labor is what keeps this economy working the way it does. I hear people bitch and moan about how illegal immirgrants parade themselves on certain streets waiting to get picked up by people looking for cheap labor. They bitch about how the police never does anything, blah blah blah. The gov. knows whos illegal and who's not, they just don't want to rid themselves of cheap labor. Plain and simple, its a hard pill to swallow, but its true. The gov. WANTS cheap labor but they dont want illegal immigrants to have a voice/and or say in their working circumstances. The government wants all the benefits but not the consequenses. This bill gives them just that. By creating a retroactive bill that censors illegals, preventing them from having ANY sort of protection (ie legal advise, medical attention) the government has everything to gain and nothing to lose. A lot of people think that this bill will prevent companies from being able to hire illegal workers but that is not the case. As explained to me from a very prestigous lawyer here in Sacramento, HR4437 doesn't apply to companies, they would have their own seperate regulations. So in reality this bill does not prevent companies from employing cheap illegal labor, it just prevents immigrants from getting protection against inhuman labor practices. It was explained to me that if this bill pases an illegal worker cannot even approach a lawyer seeking their legal advise of lets say sexual harassament, rape, the use of harmful chemicals with no protection, and a myriad of other problems. When you take away the right to speak out against inhumane practices from a cheap labor force, what you have done is created slavery, plain and simple. What's next prison camps? It seems VERY racist since about 60% of all illegal immigrants are latino, but ultimately it's just hate and ignorance and nothing to do with race. I do not believe in free lunches so I do believe that regulations NEED to be put in place, HOWEVER I think this bill is highly flawed. It is already a crime to be here illegally, thats why its called "illegal immigration". So really all this bill is doing is making it illegal to be associated with anyone who is undocumented. That's all its doing. I live in California where 3 felonies gives you 25 to life. I know MANY illegal immigrants so does this mean that since I never deported any of them I get a felony for each person I didn't deport? And where does that leave me in the great state of California? According to California laws, I would be sentenced to life in prison for just knowing illegal workers without deporting them. I have never stolen, killed, or sold drugs, why would I, a college educated young lady who's worked most of her life, be thrown in jail with murderers? It doesnt seem right to me. Like I said, I believe regulations HAVE to be made, but HR 4437 is too flawed to be the answer.

I still have much to say but I'll end it at this:

I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN CAPABLE OF VOTING AND I WILL VOTE. MANY THINK THAT ALL THESE PROTESTERS ALL ILLEGAL. YOU ARE WRONG. I KNOW MANY PROTESTERS WHO ARE CITIZENS AND WHO ARE PLANNING TO VOTE AGAINST ALL INHUMANE IMMIGRATION LAWS. PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT IMMIGRATION. BITCH AT THE GOVERNMENT'S LACK OF REGULATION OF ITS LAWS ALREADY IN PLACE (IE DEPORTATION). BE ANGRY AT THEM FOR TURNING A BLIND EYE. DONT HATE, OR BE ANGRY AT THE IMMIGRANTS WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY LOOKING TO LEAVE POVERTY IN SEARCH OF ACHIEVEING MIDDLE CLASS STANDARDS. MOST IMMIGRANTS MEAN WELL, NOT ALL AS NO RACE, OR NATIONAILTY IS PERFECT. DONT HATE THEM FOR TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR GRANPARENTS DID WHEN THEY CAME FROM EUROPE, ASIA, AFRICA, AUSTRAILA OR WHEREVER.

One last thing, I'm not familiar with the "I" in "I no se dejen!". Was that a typo? Just curious.

MKC, I think Will was using computer slang, for example bc = because. In this case, I = Ay. It's not called spanglish for nothing.

YEA I'M A BEANER! SO WHAT! RIGHT NOW THE WHITE MAN IS ALL SHITTIN BRICKS CUZ HE MAD SCARED OF US!

I'm in a situation. I'm 17...still on that frikin waiting list. My parents brought me here when i was 8 months old...i was a baby! Now i'm in a critical time of my life...i'm ateenager with no papers and in NEED of a license. FUCK THE GOVERNMENT labeling me as a threat. THEY CAN AN KISS MY NUTZ!!!

No one is scared Pedro. In fact, judging by poll numbers, dumb people like you seem to invigorate the anti-ILLEGAL immigrant crowd.

Perhaps it is Pedro who is scared of being deported and made to actually obey our laws upon entry. You know, the way millions upon millions of immigrants respectfully obey our laws. You aren't superior to the legal immigrants. You don't deserve special treatment(regardless of your tiny IQ).

Here's a lesson in manners, Pedro. When you're a guest in someones home, use words like "please" and "thank you" not threats and insults. Americans are more receptive to the former.

Have a safe trip back.

I think that it was so cool to get out and speak our minds. I went to school because my parents think that since I 'm a legal I shouldn't even get involved but I disagree. I'll support as much as I can. Bbut I did wear my white shirt.

its is true that if it was white people they would certanly listen......... we were having this discussion in class not to long ago and we were talking about this some law many said that we were just taking their jobs when many people wanted them so i spoke out and told them that many people are not willing to take the jobs the immigrants take because the salary is to low or they are just lazy........ then an african american spoke out and said that she thinks what were doing is stupid i asked her if she would do the same thing if this was about her race and she couldnt find anything to say..... i also believe that t is stupid how they bitch about how we dont care enough about political stuff and when we finally have something to say they make us be stop and shut up......... you make a very good point thank you for this

Hey MKC...shut your racist $$@ up! People such as Will Lozano and Pedro are the reason immigrants (don't matter if legal or whatever) are being noticed. They are truly passionate about what they are doing and I couldn't agree with them more. I too say "Que siga la marcha, I no se dejen". It's sad that asinine and gluttonous people such as yourself don't realize that your ancestors were in a similar situation a long time ago. Conditions in their home countries were bad and needed to find a new way of life. They said "Hey the United States offers great new opportunities for us and our children, let's go there". Unfortunaly, their lucky children are now tryin to stop other people from going for that better life that they desire.

Mira, Chingon, I don't think you're going to get your point across by attacking people. As a matter of fact you should be more like the protesters and get your point across PEACEFULLY. I was so proud of these marches because there wasn't a single case of police confrontation. Millons of people got together to RESPECTFULLY and PEACEFULLY speak out against HR4437, you should try doing the same.

I'm sorry Mck, but since when do people go to other people's house, and suddenly make rules and regulations for others to follow? Because as far as I know this was never your house to begin with.. if you know what i mean.. I know u do..

I believe that HR4437 should be approved. Yes, it is true that our ancestors were immigrants from other countries, however, at that time we were not "The United States of America". We were simply "The New World". There were no rules and regulations back then. Today there is a process that one must undergo to become an American citizen. By choosing to enter our country illegally, these immigrants are breaking the law. Please don't misunderstand me, I am NOT against immigrants coming to the U.S. in the pursuit of a better way of life. I am however, against immigrants entering our country illegally. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned is the fact that by leaving our borders "open" we are posing a huge threat to our national security. Who knows how easy it would be for a terrorist to enter our country from Mexico?

i think that the law should not be past i think they should leave them alone and let them have there rights to.

Hey, El Mero Chingon, one can guess the followers of Pol Pot were also passionate about what they were doing. That didn't make them right.

It might be asinine of YOU to assume of what I am or am not, aware of. You see, I can simply ask my grandparents, in Spanish, exactly what it was like to leave everything they knew and start all over again in a foreign land (kicking open the doors and making demands wasn't one of their answers). Some of their fondest memories were how they were welcomed into this country. This generosity by AMERICANS, is what causes my grandmother's eyes to swell with tears when she relates these stories to me. So I do empathize with EVERYONE in the WORLD(not just Mexico) who would like a better life, even the illegals. That is why you can't find even ONE anti-immigrant post made by me, or anybody here. What I don't do is give people like you any credence when you try and silence or intimidate opposition(Americans) by calling them "racist".

Furthermore, shouldn't it be Mexico that actually does something for it's people instead of callously exporting them to the north. Are the remaining 90+ million Mexicans eventually going to want to cross also? I'm sure there are 500 million Chinese who would prefer a better life here. Why stop them? What about Eastern Europeans, Sudanese, etc...? If you plan on allowing illegal entry, where does it end? With the world packed neatly into ONE country? Where's the outrage for reform in Mexico? Where are the people condemning it's government? Where are the massive protests denouncing Vicente? Wouldn't this be a step towards progress for Mexicans?

Fabiola, the U.S. doesn't have a right to have laws? Please explain.

Using your logic, anyone can go to Mexico and ignore all of it's laws, because hey, what right does Mexico have making "rules and regulations" in "other people's houses".

Still, Mexico has tough immigration laws. I guess it's to control it's southern border from unwanted illegal immigrants. Go figure.

These poor "Illegal" immigrants do face some extreme hardships in trying to cross(by land/sea)over here. They work these crappy jobs for low wages. The problem, however, is that they are doing it to themselves by being here illegally. It's a double edge sword because by not going through the proper channels, they are reducing themselves to this treatment because other people know they can exploit them since they have no "civil" rights. It would be nice if the world cared about everyone, respected everyone as a human being, but that's not the case nor it never will be.

MKC brought up a very good point (Not to say that all illegals are only Mexican, however, it is a fact that there is a large amount are coming from there), What is the Mexican government doing for it's people?? Could it be that they don't care about their people and are quite happy transferring their problems somewhere else?? If things are so bad over there were people are risking so much, why aren't they proactive in their country to make things better??

The other fact that they are just trying to make a living is a noble cause. They want what everyone wants, to live a decent life and provide a better life for their children. Once again though, the problem is that they are doing it "illegally" by stealing, forging,(Identify Theft, Fake SS#, etc...) and other unlawful acts to do so. Is it okay to do "Illegal" acts so long as its for a noble cause? When people steal from you, are you happy and reward them?? Do the ends justify the means??

Just as a side note. For the past 5 years I have volunteered in TaxAid and VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance)at the local communities where I live (San Francisco/Mission). We provided free income tax preparation for the low wage income earners and seniors. I have seen and prepared MANY tax returns for illegal people (Since many of them heard that they are going to get money back from the government) and have noticed a few things: 1) They usually claim the maximum amount of exemptions to not get taxed on their income 2) They obviously don't make a lot of money. So what is my point? Those people who say they pay taxes is INcorrect. For the ones who don't get paid cash/under the table, they rarely ever pay taxes on their income. If they don't earn a lot of money or send money back to their home country, how is a sales tax an effective way for them to pay taxes?? The sales tax that they pay definitely doesn't pay the costs of them being here.

As for Sara's post. Using your sister isn't a good example because she is only one of the +11 million people. It's like me stating that since I don't like something or take something, other people aren't doing it. Statistics don't lie when they show the increase in health care costs and other support services illegal people are taking.

I don't think that deporting all those millions of people is a solution either. Having the guest worker program would be my only solution if it can enforced. The problem is who is to say that it would actually work. After their time is up, does anyone really think that they will just pack up their things and go back to their country??? There are many people who come over with other visas who overstay. With a Guest worker program, it would be easier to get in and stick around.

I truly sympathize with a lot of the illegal people here in terms of the hardship and services they provide. I have worked with and have made many of friends that were illegal immigrants in my lifetime, however, I don't agree that they should be allowed a free pass to become a citizen. I don't agree with everything in the the bill, but there are many more people who went through their own hardships to go through the process the legal way. It would be insulting to all of those people who did it the right way (Which includes my family). Granting citizenships for people who intentionally broke the law isn't right and would only increase that type of behavior since there are no consequences for their actions. Don't you think that people should be accountable for their actions? While I agree that the U.S visa system isn't what most people would call fair(insert sarcasm), that doesn't give a person the right to break the law because it doesn't suit them.

As for the Mexican racists that posted here, it saddens me to see that you make us other Mexicans look bad with your ignorance and your stupidity. And you wonder why other people look down on us??

For those who haven't read the bill, Google: Wiki HR4437 for complete details.

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Umm...I live confortably and I'm not missing anything in the world. I'm not a spoiled brat...but I get what I want. It was all thanks to my great great grandfather. He came from Ireland. He struggled a bit at first, but with a little bit of effort, he had his own business and became very successful. His children that came after him followed his footsteps and also had successful careers. In my family we have doctors, professors,lawyers, you name it. I have a friend whose grandfather was in a similar situatiion. They're Mexican. Mexican people have that desire to live a better life. All immigrants do. I agree with them wanting to have a better life. I want them to be like my great great grandfather and my friend's grandfather and be successful in this country and live like me and my other friends do. Success can happen to anybody.

Waz up daw, Baby killas back in the house. Did you miss me? What am I saying ofcorse u did daw. But any ways enogh with the hellos lets get down to bisnes, who should I start with, esperate I know I'll start with you mkc a.k.a. ass face. u'r a real bitch u know that. what do you do take classes to be like that or something. But yet even if u'r a bitch I agree with u, yup I do. Cuz yeah I i might b an idiot, but guess what compeared to u I'm another albert instine(I dont know if that's how it's speled but I realy dont give a fuck) and yeah I might go 2 prison but not till my voic is heard and if yall dont listen then well I'll have 2 kepp on talking behind the bars wont I. And another thing MEXICO IS NOT A SHITWHOLE, and yeah I'm liveing in this dumb country but not because I want to but because i have to.

And to any other dumb ass that agrees with him then u 2 can go to hell

And 4 the people that agree with me thank u very much, I love u 2. I'd give u an autograph but 2 things stop me 4'm doing that 1 i dont know how 2 give it 2 u and 2 i don't have an autograph so just scru it.

got 2 go now but first can
any one hook me up with some
weed cuz like I said before
WEED IS A NEED

skipping school is illeagal in this country. the parents of all the stdents should have signed them out and supported there kids in a legal matter! the government may be wrong on this matter. if they are is the only way to make a point is to break the law. does two wrongs make one right

Baby Killa I bet you're some antimmigration racist asshole pretending to be Latino because there is no latino in the world that is as ignorant as you portray yourself to be. And a word of advice, your voice is never going to be heard if all you are saying is bullshit.

Sara what the fuck is up with u? Hell no I'm not a antimmigration racist asshole.Bitch u must b on weed cuz I'm so not white, I'm 100% latina and your wrong cuz thier is a shit loud of latinos that I chill with. FIRST DEAD THAN B WHITE,I'M 100% latina 100% DAW 100%YOU HEAR THAT 100%. I bet that u'r the antimmigration racist asshole that acts latino pretending 2 b latino,who would b c'n with u. U'R GAY,PUTA TARADA GUEY TU NO VALES MADRE AND U REALY HAVE 2 LAY OF THE WEED,THAT WAY U'LL STOP SAYING SHIT. Que no ves guiey que soy 100% chilanga,perate(esperate, c i can write it right)guey ya c lo que pasa estas celosa d que no eres chillanga. I'm not makeing it up I'm 4'm Atizapan de Zaragosa,a place in the mera Ciudad de Mexico. c krazy hoe c, I'm 4 real 4 real(in gangsta acsent) Ill b back soon 2 talk some more and suport my latinos.

p.s. I got some news 4 all of ya. Lil' Choka is in prison 4 drug dealing and haveing a gun and pointing it at an oficer. Don't mater much she was always sort of stupid but us gangstas 4'm Sangre Latina are ganna bust her out so I got 2 dive lke 6 hours to get 2 the place were they transfered her 2. But shh,dont say athing, its a secret.thats what Shorty said. (Shorty in a gangsta actsent).So thats it. now I realy got 2 go I still love ya'll NOT U sara.

WHEN I PUT LAY OF THE WEED,THAT WAY U'LL NEVER STOP SAYING SHIT IN MY LAST POSTED CRAP WHAT I MENT WAS "LAY OF THE WEED,THAT WAY U'LL STOP SAYING SHIT OH AND MY VOICE WILL B HEARD CUZ I DONTJUST SAY BULL SHIT AND SARA UR LUKY I DONTKNOW WHO URSISTA IS CUZ OTHR WAIS ID MAKE AN EXEPTION AND CALL LA MIGRA ON HER 4 BEING A BITCH PERATE NO I WOUNT CUZ THATS NOT HOW I GO HEY HOMEIS I GOT 2 TELL U THAT AFTER JUNE 11TH U WOUNTHERE 4M ME 4 A YEAR CUZ SOME SHIT IS GOING DOWN DAW DOWN AND I'LL B RUNING 2 MEXICO 2 HIDE 4'M THE POLICE, GOOD NEWS RIGHT RACIST HOES AQND ANY 1 THAT DONT LIKE WAT I SAY.(WHAT,C I CAN SPELL THAT RIGHT 2 IM SO HAPPY THAT I'M A BIG GIRL NOW.

P.S. HERE IS SOME THING 4 U THAT DONT KNOW IT:
Mexicanos, al grito de guerra
El acero aprestad y el brid�n;
y retiemble en sus centros la tierra
Al sonoro rugir del ca��n.

Ci�a oh patria!
tus sienes
de oliva
De la Paz el arc�ngel divino,
Que en el cielo tu eterno destino
Por el dedo de Dios se escribi�.

M�s si osare un extra�o enemigo
Profanar con su planta tu suelo,
Piensa, oh patria querida ,que el cielo
Un soldado en cada hijo te dio.

Guerra, guerra sin tregua al que intente
De la patria manchar los blasones!
Guerra, guerra! Los patrios pendones
En las olas de sangre empapad.

Guerra, guerra! En el monte, en el valle
Los ca�ones horr�sonos truenen

Y los ecos sonoros resuenen
Con las voces de
Uni�n!
Libertad!

Antes, patria,
que inermes tus hijos
Bajo el yugo su cuello dobleguen,

Tus campi�as con sangre se rieguen,
Sobre sangre se estampe su pie.

Y tus templos, palacios y torres
Se derrumben con h�rrido estruendo,
Y sus ruinas existan diciendo:
De mil h�roes
la patria aqu� fue.
Coro

Patria! patria!
Tus hijos te juran
Exhalar en tus aras su aliento,
Si el clar�n con su b�lico acento
Los convoca
a lidiar con valor.

Para ti las guirnaldas de oliva!

Un recuerdo para ellos de gloria!

Un laurel para ti de victoria!

Un sepulcro para ellos de honor!

DO U KNOW WHAT IT IS? NO. UR RETARDED, ES EL IMNO NACIONAL MEXICANO

WHEN I PUT LAY OF THE WEED,THAT WAY U'LL NEVER STOP SAYING SHIT IN MY LAST POSTED CRAP WHAT I MENT WAS "LAY OF THE WEED,THAT WAY U'LL STOP SAYING SHIT OH AND MY VOICE WILL B HEARD CUZ I DONTJUST SAY BULL SHIT AND SARA UR LUKY I DONTKNOW WHO URSISTA IS CUZ OTHR WAIS ID MAKE AN EXEPTION AND CALL LA MIGRA ON HER 4 BEING A BITCH PERATE NO I WOUNT CUZ THATS NOT HOW I GO HEY HOMEIS I GOT 2 TELL U THAT AFTER JUNE 11TH U WOUNTHERE 4M ME 4 A YEAR CUZ SOME SHIT IS GOING DOWN DAW DOWN AND I'LL B RUNING 2 MEXICO 2 HIDE 4'M THE POLICE, GOOD NEWS RIGHT RACIST HOES AQND ANY 1 THAT DONT LIKE WAT I SAY.(WHAT,C I CAN SPELL THAT RIGHT 2 IM SO HAPPY THAT I'M A BIG GIRL NOW.

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Un soldado en cada hijo te dio.

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Guerra, guerra! Los patrios pendones
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Los ca񯮥s horr���nos truenen

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Tus campi񡳠con sangre se rieguen,
Sobre sangre se estampe su pie.

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Y sus ruinas existan diciendo:
De mil h鲯es
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Coro

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Tus hijos te juran
Exhalar en tus aras su aliento,
Si el clar���con su b鬩co acento
Los convoca
a lidiar con valor.

Para ti las guirnaldas de oliva!

Un recuerdo para ellos de gloria!

Un laurel para ti de victoria!

Un sepulcro para ellos de honor!

DO U KNOW WHAT IT IS? NO. UR RETARDED, ES EL IMNO NACIONAL MEXICANO

Yo wat it iz ho

who cares what it is
thats why the bill is being PASSED

The bottom line is that these people made a mockery of the rule of law in our nation and are an insult to every single immigrant who went through the lengthy process of becoming an American citizen the legal way. The illegitimate criminals deserve to be tossed to the curb and back to Mexico, China, Guatemala, Honorduras, or wherever they came from.

Of course, I'm not really a fan of deporting these people (except whenever they commit a crime, including wrecking a car without insurance). I'm more a fan of slamming employers with huge fines for hiring them. Cut off the jobs, and they'll go back.

I'm tired of the race card on this matter, as well. It's pathetic. The most racist calls are coming from the protesters and La Raza and their pathetic bleating calls of racism (while they belch out garbage about Gringoes and Rednecks). Americans aren't complaining about the race of the people coming: they're complaining about their legality and their refusal to integrate into American society.

If these brats want to protest, do it after school. They're only in session until 3:00 or so, anyway. They get a break when the rest of the world has to work much longer hours.

Finally, supporters of illegals are just allowing the corrupt, racist government in charge of Mexico to continue, as always. Mexico is the wealthiest nation in Latin America, yet somehow it's inundated by the poor. Why? Because the Spanish elite (that's what they call them) rule over the uneducated and impoverished Mestizoes (who come to our nation).

Make Mexico deal with its own problems. Heaven knows they enforce their southern border.

Anyone BREAKING AND SNEAKING PAST a recognized border of a country is not 'immigrating', they are INVADING. These are NOT IMMIGRANTS, they are ILLEGAL INVADERS. Wake the hell up! Do you know what you see if you try to cross into Mexico's border illegally? Go down to Tejas and look across the river kids: TANKS AND GUNS. But if we protect our borders the same way we're 'racists'? Wake the hell up! And before you say we should 'assimiliate' these people who come here knowing they have broken the laws of the land and expect to be rewarded for it, how about you break it down for us WHO is going to pay for the massive bureauacrcy needed to do so?

Can you say,"MORE TAXES PLEASE?"
Well, you better learn to because guess what kids, it'll be YOUR generation paying for these invaders to stay here.

Good job.

I guess a lot of strikers were illigal imigrants so that was a pretty good chance to find them in one place.

i have a question and if anyone can email me with the reply i would greatly appreciate it.. does anyone know of the suport system that is out there that gives money to kids who one or both parents are in prison i need to know so please answer me thank you

i dont know why white people talk all this shit about mexicans if they eat our food the usa is made out of mexicans if u ask a mexican to cut your yard 4 $5 bucks they'll do it know ask a white guy he'll say no besides the usa use to be part of mexico

i dont know why white people talk all this shit about mexicans if they eat our food the u.s.a is made out of mexicans if you ask a mexican to cut your yard for $5 bucks they'll do it know ask a white guy he'll say no besides the u.s.a use to be part of mexico

heyyyyyyyy i dont know how i got in here but i gots something to say im Mexican and prowd and im not gonna let no white craka put me down.......... its not my fault my family migrated here a long long time ago and we came over here for work and i dont see no white fokes complainig about dat fo sho......... they always talking about how we need to go back well they need to wake up and smell da damn coffe cuz if we are immigrants then they are to cuz their ansisters arnt from here the only ppl who arnt immigrants are the indians....... well i just had to put my input on diss well hollaz at cha girl damielle martinez at mexicanflirt15@yahoo.com pce

We live in the republic-democracitcal nation the United States, where the rulers are not our leaders but the people, and the peaceful demostration set forth by high students in March 2006 reminded the world that the United States do listen to its people.

The fact of the matter is, this is not a socialist country but a capitalistic society so the HR 4437 did intervene with businesses. And believe me I love competition, but the bill surprise me the most when it crimilized church or other organization from helping undocumented immigrants. These factor would make people, who drive around the dessert and put water bottles for people who might otherwise dihydrate, lawbreakers.

In many aspects, illegal immigration does aid our economy because most of these people pay taxes cut down in their paycheck and fail to claim it during income tax. They also don't benefit from government agencies since their afraid of commenting their legal status. Of course every economist would add that when immigrants take an unwanted sector in the industry, even though it would take jobs from citizens, it helps the market in the long run since documented workers would strive for higher education therefore improving an industry competive to the growing European and Asian economies.

Lets face it, the growing spectrum in these immigration debate would unlikely had grown without these students and the following marches accross the country, and congress would not be debating a humane law benificiniary to everyone. The ideal of a walk-out really outspoke the demands of immigrants because trust me a march held in Houston on a saturday morning, concerning the S.DREAM act simply attracted univision and telemundo broadcaster noneother, however the walk-out was transmitted from Fox to CNN.

Anyways support the S. Dream Act (Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors)

Check this page out:
http://www.cosaonline.org/003detail.html

Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration, moron. And the supporters of it are supporters of terrorists.

I want to make tarrada

Strange that MySpace got involved with HR 4437 and youth activism

i think that many students just walked out to get out of school many don't know what's really going on and are shouting "yeah viva mexico" we're not fighting for mexico we're fighting for immigrants even though it may seem like it many seriousl y don't know about the Hr4437 or any other laws that are being passed in the city

HI IM 13 AND AGREE WITH U I GUESS PEOPLE JUST DONT GET ALONG

I am a government officer and you better shut this down nigger