{"id":817,"date":"2003-09-15T08:29:33","date_gmt":"2003-09-15T08:29:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ubuntu.my\/wp30\/archives\/2003\/09\/15\/codifying_relationships.html"},"modified":"2003-09-15T08:29:33","modified_gmt":"2003-09-15T08:29:33","slug":"codifying_relationships","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.zephoria.org\/thoughts\/archives\/2003\/09\/15\/codifying_relationships.html","title":{"rendered":"codifying relationships"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corante.com\/many\/archives\/2003\/09\/14\/codifying_relationships.php#comments\">Liz is pondering the issues around explicitly codifying relationships<\/a> and i couldn&#8217;t agree more with her musings.  In a state of confusion about how to label people, we often just give up.  This isn&#8217;t just something that happens online.  How often do i try to express my relationship to someone and get all confused.  One word certainly doesn&#8217;t clarify those complications, but i still find myself making up a closest approximation, but not one that i would write down in stone.  Also, given the rich relationships that i have with people, i often adjust my description of my relationship with a person depending on the audience.<\/p>\n<p>Let me flesh this out with some examples.  The most obvious is the newly dating couple who hasn&#8217;t really determined what their relationship is.  So, what&#8217;s the likelihood that one is to exuberantly tell her best friend about her new girlfriend?  Probably high &#8211; there&#8217;s a bit of bragging enthusiasm \/ want of support.  What&#8217;s the probability of her telling her mom about her new girlfriend?  Probably low &#8211; she doesn&#8217;t want to have to deal with the yes, mom, another one.. no this one&#8217;s different conversation.  Same relationship but with problems codifying it.<\/p>\n<p>Also, codification assumes that our terms are consistent and imply the same thing.  Does friend mean the same thing to everyone?  Certainly not.  I have quite a few friends who i&#8217;ve learned that &#8220;friend&#8221; means anyone that they&#8217;ve met.  Some codes have a definite meaning, but the implications are not given.  For example, she is my mom.  Well, in my case, my mom and i are pretty good friends, engage with each other for advice, etc.  My mom is also my friend, but the &#8216;mom&#8217; label trumps the friend label.  Yet, the implications of a mother\/daughter relationship are not consistent and thus one cannot assume much by simply hearing that relationship.<\/p>\n<p>Liz is also dead-on when she asks what the point of codification is when we have that model internally anyhow.  For most people, there is none.  What&#8217;s the value?  Doesn&#8217;t it cause more social trauma than it does any good?  Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; i&#8217;m constantly explicitly codifying information, but i don&#8217;t think that this is normal behavior.  [I am, afterall, an academic whose eccentricity is just part of the process.]<\/p>\n<p>Finally, i appreciate Liz&#8217;s pointers to my commentary on sex and self-monitoring.  Marginalized populations are constantly trying to account for how they are being perceived, if they are getting information across as intended and adjusting what they say accordingly.  They don&#8217;t have the privilege to just be whoever whenever whereever.  They must determine the appropriate information at the appropriate time.  Sex is just one axis in which this plays a part.  The most blatant example for people is around gay identity.  If you&#8217;re gay and you lack the privilege of class (overeducation counts here), what&#8217;s the likelihood that you will pronounce your sexual preference as you go for a job?  Is this deception or simply trying to be unclear about your identity for your own protection?  Self-monitoring.  You determine the social situation and adjust accordingly.  That same person is not going to hide his identity when he&#8217;s at a gay bar.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Liz is pondering the issues around explicitly codifying relationships and i couldn&#8217;t agree more with her musings. In a state of confusion about how to label people, we often just give up. This isn&#8217;t just something that happens online. How often do i try to express my relationship to someone and get all confused. 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