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	<title>Comments on: Hanging Out, Messing Around, and Geeking Out</title>
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		<title>By: JCW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I should have finished reading before posting my previous comment. Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I should have finished reading before posting my previous comment. Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: JCW</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/08/hanging_out_mes.html/comment-page-1#comment-20061</link>
		<dc:creator>JCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic read! Once again, very education and it rings true with my own experiences. Two things, though: One, there has never been, to my knowledge, a game based on &quot;Ender&#039;s Game&quot; (a bit weird that one of your subjects claimed to have played it), and two, a big part of the reason why people engage in quick turnarounds on fansubs is to increase their own reputation and standing within their community. I saw this reflected heavily in the &quot;cracking&quot; groups of the 90s (and it probably continues today).

These young people would find ways to break copyright protection on games so that they could be shared freely, but to the confusion of most outsiders, they did NOT do this for money. They formed highly organised groups across several different continents, worked very hard, raised to many challenges, and mainly it was for status and reputation.

Just something to take into consideration when talking about &quot;geeking out&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic read! Once again, very education and it rings true with my own experiences. Two things, though: One, there has never been, to my knowledge, a game based on &#8220;Ender&#8217;s Game&#8221; (a bit weird that one of your subjects claimed to have played it), and two, a big part of the reason why people engage in quick turnarounds on fansubs is to increase their own reputation and standing within their community. I saw this reflected heavily in the &#8220;cracking&#8221; groups of the 90s (and it probably continues today).</p>
<p>These young people would find ways to break copyright protection on games so that they could be shared freely, but to the confusion of most outsiders, they did NOT do this for money. They formed highly organised groups across several different continents, worked very hard, raised to many challenges, and mainly it was for status and reputation.</p>
<p>Just something to take into consideration when talking about &#8220;geeking out&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ferriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Ferriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just bought my copy, danah!


And no joke....thanks for what you do!  I&#039;m not sure there is a single thinker whose work I enjoy more than yours.  Your insights challenge me on a pretty regular basis and that&#039;s just plain cool.


Be well,
Bill




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just bought my copy, danah!</p>
<p>And no joke&#8230;.thanks for what you do!  I&#8217;m not sure there is a single thinker whose work I enjoy more than yours.  Your insights challenge me on a pretty regular basis and that&#8217;s just plain cool.</p>
<p>Be well,<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations! Your work (and the .pdf.. ;-)) has been very valuable in our own project on &quot;Growing up with the social web&quot; where we researched Internet Use among German 12- 24year-olds.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations! Your work (and the .pdf.. <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) has been very valuable in our own project on &#8220;Growing up with the social web&#8221; where we researched Internet Use among German 12- 24year-olds.</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Danah! (especially for the E-Book Pdf version for those of us who spend too much time in front of the pc!) ^.^
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Danah! (especially for the E-Book Pdf version for those of us who spend too much time in front of the pc!) ^.^</p>
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		<title>By: David Brake</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might mention that it is a free downloadable PDF from the MIT press site:


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might mention that it is a free downloadable PDF from the MIT press site:</p>
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