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		<title>By: niki duremdes</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-232376</link>
		<dc:creator>niki duremdes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day to you, Ms. boyd!

I&#039;m a BS Development Communication from the University of the Philippines. I&#039;m currently doing my undergraduate thesis about the Use of Social Networking sites and how it affects Face-to-Face Communication between highschool students in Los Baños City, Philippines. I want to focus more on the positive effects of social networking sites (how it promotes participation in conversations) and how highschool students use S.N as learning and information dissemination tools.

Just wanted to share, since I&#039;m using most of your research studies as reference materials for my dissertation, and all I can say is they&#039;re all very helpful :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day to you, Ms. boyd!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a BS Development Communication from the University of the Philippines. I&#8217;m currently doing my undergraduate thesis about the Use of Social Networking sites and how it affects Face-to-Face Communication between highschool students in Los Baños City, Philippines. I want to focus more on the positive effects of social networking sites (how it promotes participation in conversations) and how highschool students use S.N as learning and information dissemination tools.</p>
<p>Just wanted to share, since I&#8217;m using most of your research studies as reference materials for my dissertation, and all I can say is they&#8217;re all very helpful <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fandango</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-23092</link>
		<dc:creator>Fandango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree... I left social networking sites when I realised it is mostly for egotistical social bores to tell me that they are &#039;cooking tomato soup&#039; and whatnot.

The real sociable people are actually... well... er socialising!  Social networking should really be called anti-social networking, as it&#039;s sitting at a computer on your own reading dullard messages.  It&#039;s like a form of textual masturbation.

The reason some of us undermine the digital social realm is that it IS inferior to face to face meetings.

I use different forms of communication in different contexts but twitter serves no purpose but to inflate egos.  I never realised some of my friends were so boring until I joined Facebook and Twitter, in reality they aren&#039;t boring but on these sites they APPEARED to be.  I&#039;m a fan of Stephen Fry but I cringed at his immense online ego trip... it was vomitous... sorry Stephen!

It is better not to see someone for a while and then have a proper social meet face to face... it&#039;s far more interactive, rich and exciting.  To me interacting on Twitter makes me feel like someone who is autistic, i.e. no body language cues, and very limited emotional input.  To me it is inferior, at least on the phone tone of voice is useful.

Twittering is like photocopying your diary and recording the sound of your own voice and posting this through everyone&#039;s door within a 1000 mile radius.  Is this not slightly egotistical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree&#8230; I left social networking sites when I realised it is mostly for egotistical social bores to tell me that they are &#8216;cooking tomato soup&#8217; and whatnot.</p>
<p>The real sociable people are actually&#8230; well&#8230; er socialising!  Social networking should really be called anti-social networking, as it&#8217;s sitting at a computer on your own reading dullard messages.  It&#8217;s like a form of textual masturbation.</p>
<p>The reason some of us undermine the digital social realm is that it IS inferior to face to face meetings.</p>
<p>I use different forms of communication in different contexts but twitter serves no purpose but to inflate egos.  I never realised some of my friends were so boring until I joined Facebook and Twitter, in reality they aren&#8217;t boring but on these sites they APPEARED to be.  I&#8217;m a fan of Stephen Fry but I cringed at his immense online ego trip&#8230; it was vomitous&#8230; sorry Stephen!</p>
<p>It is better not to see someone for a while and then have a proper social meet face to face&#8230; it&#8217;s far more interactive, rich and exciting.  To me interacting on Twitter makes me feel like someone who is autistic, i.e. no body language cues, and very limited emotional input.  To me it is inferior, at least on the phone tone of voice is useful.</p>
<p>Twittering is like photocopying your diary and recording the sound of your own voice and posting this through everyone&#8217;s door within a 1000 mile radius.  Is this not slightly egotistical?</p>
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		<title>By: Un Blog Sobre Mis Amigos Virtuales, GRYC09 &#171; Cruzando el Charco</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-20900</link>
		<dc:creator>Un Blog Sobre Mis Amigos Virtuales, GRYC09 &#171; Cruzando el Charco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Referencias: Who Are the Good Informants in your Network?, CCK08 Twitter: &#8220;pointless babble&#8221; or peripheral awareness + social grooming? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Referencias: Who Are the Good Informants in your Network?, CCK08 Twitter: &#8220;pointless babble&#8221; or peripheral awareness + social grooming? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: myth: physical books promote deep learning &#171; nathanjurgenson</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-20166</link>
		<dc:creator>myth: physical books promote deep learning &#171; nathanjurgenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] simply because they are done online. Why do we belittle the digital as trivial when, as danah boyd points out, our everyday material world interactions are equally as trivial as what is posted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] simply because they are done online. Why do we belittle the digital as trivial when, as danah boyd points out, our everyday material world interactions are equally as trivial as what is posted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sui Fai John Mak</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-19524</link>
		<dc:creator>Sui Fai John Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 04:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Conversation is also more than the explicit back and forth between individuals asking questions and directly referencing one another. It&#039;s about the more subtle back and forth that allow us to keep our connections going.&quot;  Well said Danah.
I think each person might have used it for her/her own purpose. I like tweeting or retweeting resource or blog links and sharing with others.  I also found my fellow tweeterers are sharing their links in a reciprocal manner, and that reinforce the connections amongst us.
I have also enjoyed your recent presentation of &quot;Stream of Content&quot;.
John
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conversation is also more than the explicit back and forth between individuals asking questions and directly referencing one another. It&#8217;s about the more subtle back and forth that allow us to keep our connections going.&#8221;  Well said Danah.<br />
I think each person might have used it for her/her own purpose. I like tweeting or retweeting resource or blog links and sharing with others.  I also found my fellow tweeterers are sharing their links in a reciprocal manner, and that reinforce the connections amongst us.<br />
I have also enjoyed your recent presentation of &#8220;Stream of Content&#8221;.<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-19523</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually just wrote about this (see ReadThis.com) when one of my followers critiqued my own Tweets. Babble is part of being social...honestly admit I was a bit of a snob on this and had really never thought about it until my own posts were called out.


Never too old to learn something. ;-)


D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually just wrote about this (see ReadThis.com) when one of my followers critiqued my own Tweets. Babble is part of being social&#8230;honestly admit I was a bit of a snob on this and had really never thought about it until my own posts were called out.</p>
<p>Never too old to learn something. <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: Nomiki Konst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomiki Konst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to declare fridays as Pointless Post Day, it&#039;s the Casual Friday for Social Media!


See my declaration below:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theyippie.com/TheYippie.com_/The_Yippie/Entries/2009/8/31_Yipsdom_of_the_Day.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theyippie.com/TheYippie.com_/The_Yippie/Entries/2009/8/31_Yipsdom_of_the_Day.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to declare fridays as Pointless Post Day, it&#8217;s the Casual Friday for Social Media!</p>
<p>See my declaration below:<br />
<a href="http://www.theyippie.com/TheYippie.com_/The_Yippie/Entries/2009/8/31_Yipsdom_of_the_Day.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.theyippie.com/TheYippie.com_/The_Yippie/Entries/2009/8/31_Yipsdom_of_the_Day.html?referer=');">http://www.theyippie.com/TheYippie.com_/The_Yippie/Entries/2009/8/31_Yipsdom_of_the_Day.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: andrea ferraris</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-19521</link>
		<dc:creator>andrea ferraris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a little clarification. The last statement of my post was not only about feeling and empathy, but mainly about interest and meaningfulness. It is, in the examples of twits I made, for sure there are information, they&#039;re not just babble, but they are absolutely irrelevant for me and the 99,9999999 % of Twittter&#039;s users.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a little clarification. The last statement of my post was not only about feeling and empathy, but mainly about interest and meaningfulness. It is, in the examples of twits I made, for sure there are information, they&#8217;re not just babble, but they are absolutely irrelevant for me and the 99,9999999 % of Twittter&#8217;s users.</p>
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		<title>By: andrea ferraris</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/08/16/twitter_pointle.html/comment-page-1#comment-19520</link>
		<dc:creator>andrea ferraris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m slow to learn and understand, on Twitter only since few weeks, so I&#039;m yet trying to get the meaning of all that and then I wrote also in poor English, so if you don&#039;t understand, it&#039;s not your fault.


It seems to me that there, the babble are just pointless babble and are the most part of the contents. It is, in real social interactions (in the world out there), the &quot;babble&quot; could be good and useful social glue and grooming but in 140 chars written texts to the world there are no tone of voice, gestures, colour of looks and smells so they can&#039;t become feelings and sensations that give meaning to the babble if you don&#039;t know very well in the real reality the person who is babbling. At now I don&#039;t know personnally and very well the other milions of Twitter users. So for me and now, Twitter could be interesting for the links to web contents by knowledgable people that could also have other web pages or blogs. To decide to follow someone I mainly judge the links also because it&#039;s almost impossible to say something really interesting in 140 bytes if you aren&#039;t a genius, a great poet or a true humorist or if you aren&#039;t doing an emergency communication, b.e. &quot;The world is ending in five minuts!&quot; or &quot;My house is burning! Sorry if I can&#039;t reply in the next hours and please call the firemans!&quot; (please don&#039;t do that, but run to get an extinguisher and call firemans).


Also if they aren&#039;t properly pointless babbles most of the 140 bytes sentences where some perfect unknown person tells the world what she/he is doing for me are meaningless. It is, twit like &quot;I&#039;m cooking the dinner&quot; &quot;I&#039;m going to wash my old pants&quot; &quot;I have just combed the hair of my dog&quot; let me feeling the same empaty for the pants, the hair of the dog and the person who writes such things, it is none.


Regards and keep going,


Andrea
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slow to learn and understand, on Twitter only since few weeks, so I&#8217;m yet trying to get the meaning of all that and then I wrote also in poor English, so if you don&#8217;t understand, it&#8217;s not your fault.</p>
<p>It seems to me that there, the babble are just pointless babble and are the most part of the contents. It is, in real social interactions (in the world out there), the &#8220;babble&#8221; could be good and useful social glue and grooming but in 140 chars written texts to the world there are no tone of voice, gestures, colour of looks and smells so they can&#8217;t become feelings and sensations that give meaning to the babble if you don&#8217;t know very well in the real reality the person who is babbling. At now I don&#8217;t know personnally and very well the other milions of Twitter users. So for me and now, Twitter could be interesting for the links to web contents by knowledgable people that could also have other web pages or blogs. To decide to follow someone I mainly judge the links also because it&#8217;s almost impossible to say something really interesting in 140 bytes if you aren&#8217;t a genius, a great poet or a true humorist or if you aren&#8217;t doing an emergency communication, b.e. &#8220;The world is ending in five minuts!&#8221; or &#8220;My house is burning! Sorry if I can&#8217;t reply in the next hours and please call the firemans!&#8221; (please don&#8217;t do that, but run to get an extinguisher and call firemans).</p>
<p>Also if they aren&#8217;t properly pointless babbles most of the 140 bytes sentences where some perfect unknown person tells the world what she/he is doing for me are meaningless. It is, twit like &#8220;I&#8217;m cooking the dinner&#8221; &#8220;I&#8217;m going to wash my old pants&#8221; &#8220;I have just combed the hair of my dog&#8221; let me feeling the same empaty for the pants, the hair of the dog and the person who writes such things, it is none.</p>
<p>Regards and keep going,</p>
<p>Andrea</p>
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		<title>By: iSABELglobal</title>
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		<dc:creator>iSABELglobal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if in the distant - or not so distant future - some one might arrange the Twitter pieces like in a puzzle and realize that &quot;a previously unseen pertinent message&quot; makes perfect sence...


What if a brilliant discovery shows up in all the seemingly pointless babble that was posted by young, bussiness, wise, old or otherwise common people who did not realize they were a part of cosmic communication ...


How cool would it then be, that some where in that discovery this posting of mine may show up!


Yes I am coping this posting on Twitter even if it takes several tweets
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if in the distant &#8211; or not so distant future &#8211; some one might arrange the Twitter pieces like in a puzzle and realize that &#8220;a previously unseen pertinent message&#8221; makes perfect sence&#8230;</p>
<p>What if a brilliant discovery shows up in all the seemingly pointless babble that was posted by young, bussiness, wise, old or otherwise common people who did not realize they were a part of cosmic communication &#8230;</p>
<p>How cool would it then be, that some where in that discovery this posting of mine may show up!</p>
<p>Yes I am coping this posting on Twitter even if it takes several tweets</p>
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