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	<title>Comments on: Twitter is for friends; Facebook is everybody</title>
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		<title>By: thisisjohnny</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19243</link>
		<dc:creator>thisisjohnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to disagree with your statement that twitter is for friends, facebook for everybody.  i think that&#039;s patently false, and - in fact - the direct opposite.


twitter is for everybody, facebook is for friends.


the whole point of social media and social networking is the &quot;social&quot; part.  if you&#039;re locking down your twitter account letting only certain people follow, you&#039;re doing it wrong.  facebook acts the same (but was originally the entire point of the service. it has since changed dramatically.), allowing only those you want to see your pictures, movies, personal information to see it.  i think this point is most evident in that facebook calls connections &quot;friends&quot; whereas twitter calls them &quot;followers&quot;... there&#039;s an inherent separation of public and private in the use of the two words.


but i do agree with your point that teens and young people don&#039;t want their parents or school teachers to follow their updates on twitter, or to be their friend (and therefore see their activity) on facebook.  it&#039;s what being young is all about.  your whole life you&#039;ve grown up under someone&#039;s rules and regulations.. now you want to be free from supervision.  social networks used to give this freedom to young persons, but - with grown celebrities, oprah, martha stewart, large corporations, etc. joining these social networks - we&#039;re starting to see a backlash of young persons against these networks.


parents are not cool.  what teenager wants to be uncool?  it&#039;s only natural they don&#039;t want to be friends with their own parents.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to disagree with your statement that twitter is for friends, facebook for everybody.  i think that&#8217;s patently false, and &#8211; in fact &#8211; the direct opposite.</p>
<p>twitter is for everybody, facebook is for friends.</p>
<p>the whole point of social media and social networking is the &#8220;social&#8221; part.  if you&#8217;re locking down your twitter account letting only certain people follow, you&#8217;re doing it wrong.  facebook acts the same (but was originally the entire point of the service. it has since changed dramatically.), allowing only those you want to see your pictures, movies, personal information to see it.  i think this point is most evident in that facebook calls connections &#8220;friends&#8221; whereas twitter calls them &#8220;followers&#8221;&#8230; there&#8217;s an inherent separation of public and private in the use of the two words.</p>
<p>but i do agree with your point that teens and young people don&#8217;t want their parents or school teachers to follow their updates on twitter, or to be their friend (and therefore see their activity) on facebook.  it&#8217;s what being young is all about.  your whole life you&#8217;ve grown up under someone&#8217;s rules and regulations.. now you want to be free from supervision.  social networks used to give this freedom to young persons, but &#8211; with grown celebrities, oprah, martha stewart, large corporations, etc. joining these social networks &#8211; we&#8217;re starting to see a backlash of young persons against these networks.</p>
<p>parents are not cool.  what teenager wants to be uncool?  it&#8217;s only natural they don&#8217;t want to be friends with their own parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherlin</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19242</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using MSM&#039;s demo version for Twitter, pretty cool application, I guess its better than both humming bird and others in that you can very cleanly remove all non following friends, ON ALL PAGES, I liked it pretty much.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html&lt;/a&gt;


Still in demo though, can add 15 in one go, does any one know where the full version of this app is availble??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using MSM&#8217;s demo version for Twitter, pretty cool application, I guess its better than both humming bird and others in that you can very cleanly remove all non following friends, ON ALL PAGES, I liked it pretty much.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html?referer=');">http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html</a></p>
<p>Still in demo though, can add 15 in one go, does any one know where the full version of this app is availble??</p>
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		<title>By: Sherlin</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19241</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using MSM&#039;s demo version for Twitter, pretty cool application, I guess its better than both humming bird and others in that you can very cleanly remove all non following friends, ON ALL PAGES, I liked it pretty much.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html&lt;/a&gt;


Still in demo though, can add 15 in one go, does any one know where the full version of this app is availble??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using MSM&#8217;s demo version for Twitter, pretty cool application, I guess its better than both humming bird and others in that you can very cleanly remove all non following friends, ON ALL PAGES, I liked it pretty much.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html?referer=');">http://www.microsocialmarketer.com/2009/07/twitter-marketer.html</a></p>
<p>Still in demo though, can add 15 in one go, does any one know where the full version of this app is availble??</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ferriter</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19240</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Ferriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m jumping into this conversation late, but it&#039;s got my mind spinning.  What I&quot;m wondering is how are the public forums that we&#039;re all joining changing our perceptions of privacy and relationships.


Here&#039;s what I mean:  I generally don&#039;t view anything that I write online---whether it&#039;s on my blog, in Facebook or on Twitter---as private.  Instead, as Chris Lehmann once wrote, &quot;my private life begins once I walk away from the computer.&quot;


That &quot;no-privacy boundary&quot; changes the way I participate in online communities.  I&#039;m careful about what I reveal and cautious about what I&#039;m willing to say.  My online contributions and relationships are measured instead of entirely open.


But I&#039;m starting to feel a &quot;spill-over effect&quot; into my face-to-face relationships.  I&#039;m more cautious than ever...even skeptical to some degree...when interacting with others simply because I&#039;ve had to put that &quot;filter&quot; on my online relationships.


Does this make any sense?  Is it possible that I&#039;m translating behaviors from my online relationships to my real-live relationships?


And more importantly, are our students making the same translations?
Bill
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m jumping into this conversation late, but it&#8217;s got my mind spinning.  What I&#8221;m wondering is how are the public forums that we&#8217;re all joining changing our perceptions of privacy and relationships.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I mean:  I generally don&#8217;t view anything that I write online&#8212;whether it&#8217;s on my blog, in Facebook or on Twitter&#8212;as private.  Instead, as Chris Lehmann once wrote, &#8220;my private life begins once I walk away from the computer.&#8221;</p>
<p>That &#8220;no-privacy boundary&#8221; changes the way I participate in online communities.  I&#8217;m careful about what I reveal and cautious about what I&#8217;m willing to say.  My online contributions and relationships are measured instead of entirely open.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m starting to feel a &#8220;spill-over effect&#8221; into my face-to-face relationships.  I&#8217;m more cautious than ever&#8230;even skeptical to some degree&#8230;when interacting with others simply because I&#8217;ve had to put that &#8220;filter&#8221; on my online relationships.</p>
<p>Does this make any sense?  Is it possible that I&#8217;m translating behaviors from my online relationships to my real-live relationships?</p>
<p>And more importantly, are our students making the same translations?<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19239</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BREWTON - I was actually thinking about the new found publicity that today&#039;s youth are having to contend with on the Internet.  I&#039;m 31 now, so I&#039;m just old enough to remember actually dialing a telephone to contact friends.  Even though I was on the internet 15 years ago (geek that I am), fortunately most of my teenage debauchery is still safely ensconced in polaroids and the memories of my friends.


So to me the more interesting question for today&#039;s youth, is not where they will find their escape (the Internet is plenty big enough), but how they will maintain their privacy, and will they develop the savvy to keep their shit clean and off the public record.  Just look at the sexting scandals going on these days.  When I was a kid, and I suspect for all of human history, we did much worse, and the adults never had clue one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BREWTON &#8211; I was actually thinking about the new found publicity that today&#8217;s youth are having to contend with on the Internet.  I&#8217;m 31 now, so I&#8217;m just old enough to remember actually dialing a telephone to contact friends.  Even though I was on the internet 15 years ago (geek that I am), fortunately most of my teenage debauchery is still safely ensconced in polaroids and the memories of my friends.</p>
<p>So to me the more interesting question for today&#8217;s youth, is not where they will find their escape (the Internet is plenty big enough), but how they will maintain their privacy, and will they develop the savvy to keep their shit clean and off the public record.  Just look at the sexting scandals going on these days.  When I was a kid, and I suspect for all of human history, we did much worse, and the adults never had clue one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19238</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with the observation of twitter being &quot;private&quot;. I am a 20 year old uni student and used to post fb status&#039; all the time but got annoyed at certain people knowing everything about me. I blocked a couple of the more irritating once (as in I blocked them from seeing my status) but then I went through some personal issues that I wanted to vent as I was addicted to status updates but I didn&#039;t want everyone knowing about it so I blew the dust off my twitter log in page and now use it nearly every day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with the observation of twitter being &#8220;private&#8221;. I am a 20 year old uni student and used to post fb status&#8217; all the time but got annoyed at certain people knowing everything about me. I blocked a couple of the more irritating once (as in I blocked them from seeing my status) but then I went through some personal issues that I wanted to vent as I was addicted to status updates but I didn&#8217;t want everyone knowing about it so I blew the dust off my twitter log in page and now use it nearly every day.</p>
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		<title>By: BREWTON</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/06/11/twitter_is_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-19237</link>
		<dc:creator>BREWTON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Ruth


I agree that the ability for young people to maintain digital outlets where they can attempt different versions of themselves is of the utmost importance.  I missed the opportunity to experiment in this way when I was a teenager.  John Palfrey and Urs Gasser&#039;s phenomenal work in Born Digital covers this subject at length.


Additionally, I agree that researching where high school studetns go online to escape their peers would be fascinating work.  I would also be curious to hear the stories of those who chose to leave networks (MySpace and Facebook) once their peers and family members began using them.


BREWTON
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Ruth</p>
<p>I agree that the ability for young people to maintain digital outlets where they can attempt different versions of themselves is of the utmost importance.  I missed the opportunity to experiment in this way when I was a teenager.  John Palfrey and Urs Gasser&#8217;s phenomenal work in Born Digital covers this subject at length.</p>
<p>Additionally, I agree that researching where high school studetns go online to escape their peers would be fascinating work.  I would also be curious to hear the stories of those who chose to leave networks (MySpace and Facebook) once their peers and family members began using them.</p>
<p>BREWTON</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian Starobinas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilian Starobinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Lewis, for the link.
I would like to see more people working on this also here in Brasil, so that we can have inteligence preceding the tendence of prohibition, specially when the issue is digital networks.
All the best
Lilian
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Lewis, for the link.<br />
I would like to see more people working on this also here in Brasil, so that we can have inteligence preceding the tendence of prohibition, specially when the issue is digital networks.<br />
All the best<br />
Lilian</p>
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		<title>By: Zohar Manor-Abel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zohar Manor-Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the use of Twitter&#039;s private accounts is hidden - in terms of privacy of the users, as well as actually understanding the usage of people on it. Would be interesting to &quot;infiltrate&quot; in order to understand it more.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the use of Twitter&#8217;s private accounts is hidden &#8211; in terms of privacy of the users, as well as actually understanding the usage of people on it. Would be interesting to &#8220;infiltrate&#8221; in order to understand it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Zohar Manor-Abel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zohar Manor-Abel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always separate between Twitter and Facebook in terms of interaction. taking for your division of online social media, I say that Twitter is Social Networking site - it allows me to network with people I don&#039;t know, while Facebook is strictly Social Network site - I engage only with people I do know.
It&#039;s interesting to understand and to see the difference between teen culture and adult culture. I wonder what will be the future of use.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always separate between Twitter and Facebook in terms of interaction. taking for your division of online social media, I say that Twitter is Social Networking site &#8211; it allows me to network with people I don&#8217;t know, while Facebook is strictly Social Network site &#8211; I engage only with people I do know.<br />
It&#8217;s interesting to understand and to see the difference between teen culture and adult culture. I wonder what will be the future of use.</p>
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