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	<title>Comments on: hiking in LA (and The Golden Compass)</title>
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		<title>By: Rich Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/08/hiking_in_la_an.html/comment-page-1#comment-17232</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Golden Compass&quot; was a very good movie; I too, did see it because of the uproar by various religious groups about seeing it.


I haven&#039;t read the Dark Materials book series and now I want to. The movie seemed like the Da Vinci Code - the book was pretty good, but the movie didn&#039;t do justice to the background information. I feel that I&#039;ll learn quite a bit by reading the Dark Materials.


Anyone have any advice about this? Thanks,


Rich
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Golden Compass&#8221; was a very good movie; I too, did see it because of the uproar by various religious groups about seeing it.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the Dark Materials book series and now I want to. The movie seemed like the Da Vinci Code &#8211; the book was pretty good, but the movie didn&#8217;t do justice to the background information. I feel that I&#8217;ll learn quite a bit by reading the Dark Materials.</p>
<p>Anyone have any advice about this? Thanks,</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been years since I hiked in the areas above Pasadena and Altadena, but I recall the route up Mt. Lowe as fascinating -- so is its history. There are also some neat trails in back of JPL -- or used to be.


Ventura County has some great hiking in its foothills and along the beach.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been years since I hiked in the areas above Pasadena and Altadena, but I recall the route up Mt. Lowe as fascinating &#8212; so is its history. There are also some neat trails in back of JPL &#8212; or used to be.</p>
<p>Ventura County has some great hiking in its foothills and along the beach.</p>
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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I chose to hear the accents not as British but as random other world accent that isn&#039;t American or British.  Hearing it that way was much more sanity pleasing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I chose to hear the accents not as British but as random other world accent that isn&#8217;t American or British.  Hearing it that way was much more sanity pleasing.</p>
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		<title>By: Izzy Neis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izzy Neis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so psyched to see the movie myself-- a retelling of Paradise Lost (Milton) for kids?  Rock on.  I bet the UK would just eat this movie up-- and I&#039;m hoping that it does well enough (regardless of the church) so the two follow up books will be adapted.  When I lived in Wales people raved about this book series more than HP.  So, fingers crossed for Mr. Pullman.


p.s. This weekend was gorgeous in LA!  I walked the beach coast from Marina Del Rey to the start of Malibu.  Soooo lovely.


Enjoy the week, Danah!




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so psyched to see the movie myself&#8211; a retelling of Paradise Lost (Milton) for kids?  Rock on.  I bet the UK would just eat this movie up&#8211; and I&#8217;m hoping that it does well enough (regardless of the church) so the two follow up books will be adapted.  When I lived in Wales people raved about this book series more than HP.  So, fingers crossed for Mr. Pullman.</p>
<p>p.s. This weekend was gorgeous in LA!  I walked the beach coast from Marina Del Rey to the start of Malibu.  Soooo lovely.</p>
<p>Enjoy the week, Danah!</p>
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		<title>By: Emmadw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmadw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the Golden Compass myself. (I hope you had the regular sort when you were hiking!)


I couldn&#039;t help being reminded of Cruella de-Ville when I saw Mrs Coultard though, even though Cruella never seemed nice for even the smallest moment.


I have to confess, though, that the kids accents rather grated on me; they sounded as if they were put on. (I imagine they were!), but maybe that&#039;s only because I&#039;m from the UK. Perhaps to someone from California they sounded more authentic.


Good luck with the data analysis - and I hope that you get out of the house a bit more this week.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the Golden Compass myself. (I hope you had the regular sort when you were hiking!)</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t help being reminded of Cruella de-Ville when I saw Mrs Coultard though, even though Cruella never seemed nice for even the smallest moment.</p>
<p>I have to confess, though, that the kids accents rather grated on me; they sounded as if they were put on. (I imagine they were!), but maybe that&#8217;s only because I&#8217;m from the UK. Perhaps to someone from California they sounded more authentic.</p>
<p>Good luck with the data analysis &#8211; and I hope that you get out of the house a bit more this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Barna</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/08/hiking_in_la_an.html/comment-page-1#comment-17227</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Barna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clear up, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops actually kind of  liked the movie (http://www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml). It is the Catholic League, a Catholic &quot;civil rights&quot; organization, that was organizing the boycott. The Catholic League is neither the official Catholic church, nor does it always support the view of the church.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clear up, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops actually kind of  liked the movie (<a href="http://www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml?referer=');">http://www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml</a>). It is the Catholic League, a Catholic &#8220;civil rights&#8221; organization, that was organizing the boycott. The Catholic League is neither the official Catholic church, nor does it always support the view of the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t confuse:


- the Catholic church who though the Golden Compass was a &quot;lavish, well-acted and fast-paced adaptation&quot;,
(http://www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml)
a &quot;tepid endorsment&quot; indeed,
(http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-compass8dec08,0,7431269.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials)
but no boycott; a gesture of respect I would say considering the original book is an open charge against the Church;


with distint organisations, &quot;catholic&quot; only by name, like:


- the Catholic League, an association who openly doesn&#039;t endorse key elements of the Gospel, like Matthew 5 (&quot;If someone hits you on the left cheek [. . .]&quot;);


- or the American Catholic Church of the United States: &quot;catholic&quot; meaning universal, either they never heard of Christopher Colombus or Pax Americana is a lot more based on colonialism then what I though.


Should one accept that fascists like the C. League steal the name of a proeminent association and spread hateful lies about the key values of one billion people? - Not unlike what you went through when the BBC &quot;reused&quot; you thoughts on MySpace, Facebook &amp; classes and forced you into justifications about things that you could never have said. - The answer has been no, clearly but with clemence. Because Bishops wanted to be clear, they seperated themselves from liars: they took the right to say who was following the key aspects and who was out.
This authority can be a threat, and was criticized by authors like Pullman or Luther, sometimes with fairness. I don&#039;t think their are only two sides in this debate - but I do beleive that people who encourage confusion are on the wrong path. But I do beleive that behind the PR stunts, there are important aspects about self-representation: if I say that I am part of a religion, how can I disagree with it&#039;s authority? Can I speak in their name?




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t confuse:</p>
<p>- the Catholic church who though the Golden Compass was a &#8220;lavish, well-acted and fast-paced adaptation&#8221;,<br />
(<a href="http://www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml?referer=');">http://www.usccb.org/movies/g/thegoldencompass.shtml</a>)<br />
a &#8220;tepid endorsment&#8221; indeed,<br />
(<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-compass8dec08,0,7431269.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-compass8dec08_0_7431269.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials&amp;referer=');">http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-compass8dec08,0,7431269.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials</a>)<br />
but no boycott; a gesture of respect I would say considering the original book is an open charge against the Church;</p>
<p>with distint organisations, &#8220;catholic&#8221; only by name, like:</p>
<p>- the Catholic League, an association who openly doesn&#8217;t endorse key elements of the Gospel, like Matthew 5 (&#8220;If someone hits you on the left cheek [. . .]&#8220;);</p>
<p>- or the American Catholic Church of the United States: &#8220;catholic&#8221; meaning universal, either they never heard of Christopher Colombus or Pax Americana is a lot more based on colonialism then what I though.</p>
<p>Should one accept that fascists like the C. League steal the name of a proeminent association and spread hateful lies about the key values of one billion people? &#8211; Not unlike what you went through when the BBC &#8220;reused&#8221; you thoughts on MySpace, Facebook &#038; classes and forced you into justifications about things that you could never have said. &#8211; The answer has been no, clearly but with clemence. Because Bishops wanted to be clear, they seperated themselves from liars: they took the right to say who was following the key aspects and who was out.<br />
This authority can be a threat, and was criticized by authors like Pullman or Luther, sometimes with fairness. I don&#8217;t think their are only two sides in this debate &#8211; but I do beleive that people who encourage confusion are on the wrong path. But I do beleive that behind the PR stunts, there are important aspects about self-representation: if I say that I am part of a religion, how can I disagree with it&#8217;s authority? Can I speak in their name?</p>
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		<title>By: Thibaut Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thibaut Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 05:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Topanga Canyon is always great, but try Malibu Canyon next time, there are some great viewpoints near Las Virgenes road ! I miss California these days...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topanga Canyon is always great, but try Malibu Canyon next time, there are some great viewpoints near Las Virgenes road ! I miss California these days&#8230;</p>
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