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	<title>Comments on: boyd&#8217;s law of social network sites</title>
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	<description>making connections where none previously existed</description>
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		<title>By: James Storrie</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17120</link>
		<dc:creator>James Storrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cited you in an undergrad paper about essentially the same subject, just a couple of weeks ago. Your work is very interesting! Thank you for doing it so well!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cited you in an undergrad paper about essentially the same subject, just a couple of weeks ago. Your work is very interesting! Thank you for doing it so well!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Doyle</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17119</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our family has encountered similar problems in the so-called real world with reciprocating birthday party invitations. I imagine that similar problems existed back in the days of dance cards.


The situation is exacerbated online because most social networking sites, despite the term networking, are usually flat, broadcast spaces. (Not surprising when you consider that Facebook started with an undergraduate user base: schools are themselves flat, superconductive social spaces.)  We need a more complex social topology including venues and pigeonholes to accommodate intimacy. (viz intimacy gradients in A Pattern Language, etc.)


At Handmeon, we are experimenting with the idea of not providing any notification of friend requests - you have to actively check for them - as a way of providing plausible deniability for non-reciprocation. But getting rid of an unwanted friend once you have adopted them strikes me as a far tougher problem. Having friend links expire in some way might help but clear out some dead wood, but doesn&#039;t handle the burdock and cholla types. And it doesn&#039;t address the fundamental fact that human social space just isn&#039;t flat.


One solution is to learn to stride remorselessly through life like a double-edged razor blade. (Not that I am claiming to have learned this art, mind you.)


Personally, I think that we need to start constructing social networking sites in which the members can do their own urban design. This will become more an more important as the current generation of facebook and myspace user base moves (statistically and demographically) in the direction of the nest.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our family has encountered similar problems in the so-called real world with reciprocating birthday party invitations. I imagine that similar problems existed back in the days of dance cards.</p>
<p>The situation is exacerbated online because most social networking sites, despite the term networking, are usually flat, broadcast spaces. (Not surprising when you consider that Facebook started with an undergraduate user base: schools are themselves flat, superconductive social spaces.)  We need a more complex social topology including venues and pigeonholes to accommodate intimacy. (viz intimacy gradients in A Pattern Language, etc.)</p>
<p>At Handmeon, we are experimenting with the idea of not providing any notification of friend requests &#8211; you have to actively check for them &#8211; as a way of providing plausible deniability for non-reciprocation. But getting rid of an unwanted friend once you have adopted them strikes me as a far tougher problem. Having friend links expire in some way might help but clear out some dead wood, but doesn&#8217;t handle the burdock and cholla types. And it doesn&#8217;t address the fundamental fact that human social space just isn&#8217;t flat.</p>
<p>One solution is to learn to stride remorselessly through life like a double-edged razor blade. (Not that I am claiming to have learned this art, mind you.)</p>
<p>Personally, I think that we need to start constructing social networking sites in which the members can do their own urban design. This will become more an more important as the current generation of facebook and myspace user base moves (statistically and demographically) in the direction of the nest.</p>
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		<title>By: Maura Welch</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17118</link>
		<dc:creator>Maura Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi dana,


Blogged about boyd&#039;s law here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/business/blog/filter/2007/11/creepy_excowork.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/business/blog/filter/2007/11/creepy_excowork.html&lt;/a&gt;
It even made it into the *gasp* paper version of the Globe on Monday.


Love. It.


Your vacation sounds GREAT!


Cheers,
Maura


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi dana,</p>
<p>Blogged about boyd&#8217;s law here:<br />
<a href="http://www.boston.com/business/blog/filter/2007/11/creepy_excowork.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.boston.com/business/blog/filter/2007/11/creepy_excowork.html?referer=');">http://www.boston.com/business/blog/filter/2007/11/creepy_excowork.html</a><br />
It even made it into the *gasp* paper version of the Globe on Monday.</p>
<p>Love. It.</p>
<p>Your vacation sounds GREAT!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Maura</p>
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		<title>By: Rukia13</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17117</link>
		<dc:creator>Rukia13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool! Congrats on getting a law named after you.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool! Congrats on getting a law named after you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hapto</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17116</link>
		<dc:creator>Hapto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So remember when I gave the analogy for the queer community that... &quot;just think -- if you had slept with everyone in your PhD program... then you&#039;ll understand what dating in 5% of the world is like...?&quot;


totally boyd&#039;s law.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So remember when I gave the analogy for the queer community that&#8230; &#8220;just think &#8212; if you had slept with everyone in your PhD program&#8230; then you&#8217;ll understand what dating in 5% of the world is like&#8230;?&#8221;</p>
<p>totally boyd&#8217;s law.</p>
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		<title>By: Logical Extremes</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17115</link>
		<dc:creator>Logical Extremes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory&#039;s &quot;boyd&#039;s Law&quot; reference appears on the Concurring Opinions legal blog:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/12/metcalfes_law_v.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/12/metcalfes_law_v.html&lt;/a&gt;




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory&#8217;s &#8220;boyd&#8217;s Law&#8221; reference appears on the Concurring Opinions legal blog:<br />
<a href="http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/12/metcalfes_law_v.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/12/metcalfes_law_v.html?referer=');">http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/12/metcalfes_law_v.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Guidry</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2007/12/02/boyds_law_of_so.html/comment-page-1#comment-17114</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Guidry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool.  I imagine that a &quot;law&quot; is pretty high in the hierarchy of &quot;things to have named after you.&quot;  It definitely beats having a new species of slug or a new type of bacteria named after you.  It might even beat having an obscure and small asteroid named after you.  It&#039;s not as cool as having a newly discovered element or peace treaty named after you, though, but I&#039;m sure that you understand why that hasn&#039;t happened yet. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool.  I imagine that a &#8220;law&#8221; is pretty high in the hierarchy of &#8220;things to have named after you.&#8221;  It definitely beats having a new species of slug or a new type of bacteria named after you.  It might even beat having an obscure and small asteroid named after you.  It&#8217;s not as cool as having a newly discovered element or peace treaty named after you, though, but I&#8217;m sure that you understand why that hasn&#8217;t happened yet. <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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