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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14793</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah guys, these comments are bizarre....


NC-17 in the U.S. is what used to be called x-rated. Nobody under 18 is allowed to see it, period. And a majority U.S. theatre chains will not show NC-17 films, period, so the rating is often considered a kiss of death for a movie (the studios won&#039;t spend money marketing them). So, as this film says, any gay sexuality (without nudity, as the film shows), or sex where the woman is enjoying it, or anything other than the missionary position = NC-17. And there are no precedents (they don&#039;t compare to other films they&#039;ve rated previously, so some r-rated movies seem raunchier than NC-17/X-rated ones, ex. American Pie, Scary Movie) or formulas - it&#039;s entirely based on what makes the panel members uncomfortable.


R is a &quot;better&quot; rating. Under-18s can get in with an adult.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah guys, these comments are bizarre&#8230;.</p>
<p>NC-17 in the U.S. is what used to be called x-rated. Nobody under 18 is allowed to see it, period. And a majority U.S. theatre chains will not show NC-17 films, period, so the rating is often considered a kiss of death for a movie (the studios won&#8217;t spend money marketing them). So, as this film says, any gay sexuality (without nudity, as the film shows), or sex where the woman is enjoying it, or anything other than the missionary position = NC-17. And there are no precedents (they don&#8217;t compare to other films they&#8217;ve rated previously, so some r-rated movies seem raunchier than NC-17/X-rated ones, ex. American Pie, Scary Movie) or formulas &#8211; it&#8217;s entirely based on what makes the panel members uncomfortable.</p>
<p>R is a &#8220;better&#8221; rating. Under-18s can get in with an adult.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14792</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 11:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bertil, NC-17 is a stronger rating than R. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bertil, NC-17 is a stronger rating than R. See <a href="http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp?referer=');">http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: moever</title>
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		<dc:creator>moever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys my stuff is not working at all


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys my stuff is not working at all</p>
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		<title>By: sherver</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14790</link>
		<dc:creator>sherver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 13:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey dudes my stuff is not working good
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey dudes my stuff is not working good</p>
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		<title>By: sherver</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14789</link>
		<dc:creator>sherver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14788</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art defines the context for the future. Little girls who play with Barbie dolls grow up to become the first generation to buy breast implants. Little boys pretending to be Buck Rogers grow up to advocate and fund Reagan&#039;s Star Wars program. Film is still the dominant art form for this generation. How do ratings change our fundamental assumptions about desired and accepted reality? It&#039;s hard to believe that the odd values priorities you&#039;ve outlined have a positive impact.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art defines the context for the future. Little girls who play with Barbie dolls grow up to become the first generation to buy breast implants. Little boys pretending to be Buck Rogers grow up to advocate and fund Reagan&#8217;s Star Wars program. Film is still the dominant art form for this generation. How do ratings change our fundamental assumptions about desired and accepted reality? It&#8217;s hard to believe that the odd values priorities you&#8217;ve outlined have a positive impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertil</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14787</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I have understood --- but as you were describing what is wrong in the rating system, I though you disagreed with having &quot;mechanical sex&quot; rated for more mature audiences than female pleasure.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I have understood &#8212; but as you were describing what is wrong in the rating system, I though you disagreed with having &#8220;mechanical sex&#8221; rated for more mature audiences than female pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: eszter</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/12/01/this_film_is_no.html/comment-page-1#comment-14786</link>
		<dc:creator>eszter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, these things have annoyed me for a very long time here in the US.  Here is a blog post about this I put up four years ago:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://campuscgi.princeton.edu/~eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://campuscgi.princeton.edu/~eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://campuscgi.princeton.edu/~eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;


I&#039;ll quote the last paragraph:
&lt;ul&gt;You have to wonder what kind of values are being advocated when people losing body parts and being killed in the most ghastly ways is completely acceptable for general audiences but seeing two people express love and affection for each other is a grave sin from which we must protect the next generation. Only one question remains, I guess: what is going to protect me from the kind of generation that grows up on such values?&lt;/ul&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, these things have annoyed me for a very long time here in the US.  Here is a blog post about this I put up four years ago:<br />
<a href="http://campuscgi.princeton.edu/~eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/campuscgi.princeton.edu/_eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html?referer=');"></a><a href="http://campuscgi.princeton.edu/~eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/campuscgi.princeton.edu/_eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html?referer=');">http://campuscgi.princeton.edu/~eszter/weblog/archives/00000151.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quote the last paragraph:</p>
<ul>You have to wonder what kind of values are being advocated when people losing body parts and being killed in the most ghastly ways is completely acceptable for general audiences but seeing two people express love and affection for each other is a grave sin from which we must protect the next generation. Only one question remains, I guess: what is going to protect me from the kind of generation that grows up on such values?</ul>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have to wonder about the values of a society where a naked body is obscene but a naked blade is not&quot;...which is a paraphrase from an author I read long ago and wished I could cite properly, but it seems somehow apropos.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to wonder about the values of a society where a naked body is obscene but a naked blade is not&#8221;&#8230;which is a paraphrase from an author I read long ago and wished I could cite properly, but it seems somehow apropos.</p>
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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, by mechanical, i meant robotic, repetitive, boring, no emotions...  Sex as a functional babymaking act or where it&#039;s simply a tool for the male.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, by mechanical, i meant robotic, repetitive, boring, no emotions&#8230;  Sex as a functional babymaking act or where it&#8217;s simply a tool for the male.</p>
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