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	<title>Comments on: captcha gone very very wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Cialis USA</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13431</link>
		<dc:creator>Cialis USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a system that works *right*, look at Making Light (although they don&#039;t have a captcha at all; I don&#039;t know how effective the mandatory preview by itself is at deterring spambots.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a system that works *right*, look at Making Light (although they don&#8217;t have a captcha at all; I don&#8217;t know how effective the mandatory preview by itself is at deterring spambots.)</p>
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		<title>By: government grants</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13430</link>
		<dc:creator>government grants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you might want to check this out...
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.financialfreedomexpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;federal grants&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you might want to check this out&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.financialfreedomexpress.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.financialfreedomexpress.com?referer=');">federal grants</a></p>
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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13429</link>
		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blissy - yeah, you exceeded the number of links so it had to go to moderation
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blissy &#8211; yeah, you exceeded the number of links so it had to go to moderation</p>
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		<title>By: Blissyu2</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13428</link>
		<dc:creator>Blissyu2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of which, you refused to post my comment in your Wikipedia entry.  Was there a problem with it?  I am a bit confused.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of which, you refused to post my comment in your Wikipedia entry.  Was there a problem with it?  I am a bit confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly G</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13427</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an issue that needs to be dealt with. In thinking about accessibility think about all of your senses and varying combinations.


It is common for people to think that one solution is an audio captcha. You forget that there are those of us tht have eyes *and* ears that don&#039;t work (the greatest).


Why is there a need for the wierd backgrounds that make it hard to pull out the letters? Why the squiggled letters that make it hard to tell if you&#039;re looking at lower case, upper case or (sometimes!) a number! The one for this blog is at visably discernable if I get close and make it bigger.
Some sites use catpcha that require vision but not excellent vision and do have an audio captch as well.
Is a spam bot actually better deterred by these more difficult versions of captcha? Of course, this comment doesn&#039;t come close to an answer :( All I can do, at this time, is to make sure that people keep thinking about these issues and don&#039;t settle for &quot;solutions&quot; that cause blocks for others.
Kelly G
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an issue that needs to be dealt with. In thinking about accessibility think about all of your senses and varying combinations.</p>
<p>It is common for people to think that one solution is an audio captcha. You forget that there are those of us tht have eyes *and* ears that don&#8217;t work (the greatest).</p>
<p>Why is there a need for the wierd backgrounds that make it hard to pull out the letters? Why the squiggled letters that make it hard to tell if you&#8217;re looking at lower case, upper case or (sometimes!) a number! The one for this blog is at visably discernable if I get close and make it bigger.<br />
Some sites use catpcha that require vision but not excellent vision and do have an audio captch as well.<br />
Is a spam bot actually better deterred by these more difficult versions of captcha? Of course, this comment doesn&#8217;t come close to an answer <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  All I can do, at this time, is to make sure that people keep thinking about these issues and don&#8217;t settle for &#8220;solutions&#8221; that cause blocks for others.<br />
Kelly G</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Devine</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13426</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Devine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I thought you were leading up to a link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thepcspy.com/articles/security/the_cutest_humantest_kittenauth&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cute-kitten substitute for Capchas&lt;/a&gt;...


I love your picture of kittens, btw...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I thought you were leading up to a link to the <a href="http://www.thepcspy.com/articles/security/the_cutest_humantest_kittenauth" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.thepcspy.com/articles/security/the_cutest_humantest_kittenauth?referer=');">cute-kitten substitute for Capchas</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>I love your picture of kittens, btw&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Goldman</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13425</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first step is building awareness that there is a major problem with captchas. I know this issue has been raised on the American Foundation for the Blind&#039;s site and other sites dealing with online media.


Right now most of these web outfits using captchas don&#039;t care because they think that the people who have difficulty reading these are not important to them because they are either too old, blind, visually-impaired, etc. Maybe if some of us showed up with picket signs outside their fancy headquarters and organized an online campaign against them, they would be forced to back down.


It may be time-consuming, but I put in comment moderation rather than captchas on my blog. I don&#039;t have huge traffic or many comments, but this has kept out a number of spammers.


So thanks for raising this issue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first step is building awareness that there is a major problem with captchas. I know this issue has been raised on the American Foundation for the Blind&#8217;s site and other sites dealing with online media.</p>
<p>Right now most of these web outfits using captchas don&#8217;t care because they think that the people who have difficulty reading these are not important to them because they are either too old, blind, visually-impaired, etc. Maybe if some of us showed up with picket signs outside their fancy headquarters and organized an online campaign against them, they would be forced to back down.</p>
<p>It may be time-consuming, but I put in comment moderation rather than captchas on my blog. I don&#8217;t have huge traffic or many comments, but this has kept out a number of spammers.</p>
<p>So thanks for raising this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13424</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... you&#039;ve seen this, right?


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; you&#8217;ve seen this, right?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest?referer=');"></a><a href="http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest?referer=');">http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauthtest</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13423</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some more on &lt;a href=&quot;http://ardvaark.net/kitten_captcha_needs_to_be_mashed_with_flickr.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kitten captcha&lt;/a&gt; stuff.
How about a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Simon&#039;s_Rock_College_tests_Alan_Turing_theories_with_&#039;Imitation_Game&#039;_experiment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;real Turing test&lt;/a&gt; - you have to convince the computer that you&#039;re a woman in a  5 minute chat.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some more on <a href="http://ardvaark.net/kitten_captcha_needs_to_be_mashed_with_flickr.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/ardvaark.net/kitten_captcha_needs_to_be_mashed_with_flickr.html?referer=');">kitten captcha</a> stuff.<br />
How about a <a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Simon's_Rock_College_tests_Alan_Turing_theories_with_'Imitation_Game'_experiment" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikinews.org/wiki/Simon_s_Rock_College_tests_Alan_Turing_theories_with_Imitation_Game_experiment?referer=');">real Turing test</a> &#8211; you have to convince the computer that you&#8217;re a woman in a  5 minute chat.</p>
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		<title>By: leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2006/04/21/captcha_gone_ve.html/comment-page-1#comment-13422</link>
		<dc:creator>leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first saw this post, I assumed that you were talking about how web sites have started to use cats as CAPTCHAs.


For example, the CAPTCHA for the image above might be, how many cute cats do you see?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw this post, I assumed that you were talking about how web sites have started to use cats as CAPTCHAs.</p>
<p>For example, the CAPTCHA for the image above might be, how many cute cats do you see?</p>
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