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	<title>Comments on: growing up in a culture of fear: from Columbine to banning of MySpace</title>
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		<title>By: Andi</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12051</link>
		<dc:creator>Andi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article! Have you read the book &quot; The Culture of Fear&quot; why Americans fear all of the wrong things? I just finished it and thought it was amazing!




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article! Have you read the book &#8221; The Culture of Fear&#8221; why Americans fear all of the wrong things? I just finished it and thought it was amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Adriane</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12050</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was definatly the best post you ever did! i love this one!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was definatly the best post you ever did! i love this one!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Raab</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12049</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Raab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the beginning � to the end, from birth � to death, I like to think that each little tidbit of &lt;i&gt;knowledge&lt;/i&gt; that you acquire is like a putting a sentence in a personal textbook. As human beings grow, they are constantly adding to their own textbooks.


-	Sometimes they have to stop and refer back to their own textbook to remember how to do something�
-	Sometimes they are invited to refer to someone else�s textbook for knowledge, whereupon that knowledge becomes part of their own.
-	Sometimes they don�t remember where the textbook is, and yet they remember parts of what was written there�
-	Sometimes they forget that they wrote this piece of knowledge down already, whereupon it gets written into the book again


&lt;i&gt;Wisdom&lt;/i&gt; is what you gain when you apply the knowledge that you have acquired in your personal textbooks. It can be likened to the crib notes that you might have written in the margins next to some particularly important passage. It�s an insight into the tidbit of knowledge, sort of a �how to use this piece of information�, and it also grows as you age.


With that said, most teenagers� textbooks are not as thick as they think it is� they have had very little time (comparatively) to gain their own wisdom about the world and the way it works� other than from their rather limited perspective�


Does that mean that they have nothing to offer?? Absolutely, unequivocally not. Try to understand this though:


Our wisdom as parents, as adults, and as friends has, more often then not, been hard-won. And part of our knowledge and wisdom as parents and as adults is still being acquired. For example: �How do I get them (the teenagers) to understand that I might have some important knowledge and wisdom to give them so that they don�t have to make the same mistakes that I did (or nearly did)?�


I was in the same place as you once. I vowed that once I was an adult I would not make the same mistakes that �my� adults were making by not listening to the teenagers and young adults. And my textbook continued to fill up. And I endeavored to fill in the crib notes in the margins. Only to find myself standing here listening to a new generation of teenagers and young adults say the same things that I used to say. And finding myself lumped into that category of adults.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the beginning � to the end, from birth � to death, I like to think that each little tidbit of <i>knowledge</i> that you acquire is like a putting a sentence in a personal textbook. As human beings grow, they are constantly adding to their own textbooks.</p>
<p>-	Sometimes they have to stop and refer back to their own textbook to remember how to do something�<br />
-	Sometimes they are invited to refer to someone else�s textbook for knowledge, whereupon that knowledge becomes part of their own.<br />
-	Sometimes they don�t remember where the textbook is, and yet they remember parts of what was written there�<br />
-	Sometimes they forget that they wrote this piece of knowledge down already, whereupon it gets written into the book again</p>
<p><i>Wisdom</i> is what you gain when you apply the knowledge that you have acquired in your personal textbooks. It can be likened to the crib notes that you might have written in the margins next to some particularly important passage. It�s an insight into the tidbit of knowledge, sort of a �how to use this piece of information�, and it also grows as you age.</p>
<p>With that said, most teenagers� textbooks are not as thick as they think it is� they have had very little time (comparatively) to gain their own wisdom about the world and the way it works� other than from their rather limited perspective�</p>
<p>Does that mean that they have nothing to offer?? Absolutely, unequivocally not. Try to understand this though:</p>
<p>Our wisdom as parents, as adults, and as friends has, more often then not, been hard-won. And part of our knowledge and wisdom as parents and as adults is still being acquired. For example: �How do I get them (the teenagers) to understand that I might have some important knowledge and wisdom to give them so that they don�t have to make the same mistakes that I did (or nearly did)?�</p>
<p>I was in the same place as you once. I vowed that once I was an adult I would not make the same mistakes that �my� adults were making by not listening to the teenagers and young adults. And my textbook continued to fill up. And I endeavored to fill in the crib notes in the margins. Only to find myself standing here listening to a new generation of teenagers and young adults say the same things that I used to say. And finding myself lumped into that category of adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Farnham</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12048</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Farnham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danah, this is a great article. My wife and I are about to publish a book titled &quot;MySpace Safety: 51 Tips for Teens and Parents.&quot; In the introduction and at the end of the book, we strongly warn parents against the idea of &quot;banning&quot; MySpace. We encourage them instead to join and share the experience with their teens. It&#039;s one more part of life and community in today&#039;s world, and is an integral part of community for young people.


Interaction and communication using sites like MySpace is &quot;normal&quot; for teens and young adults, and any parent who tries to ban &quot;being normal&quot; is making a big mistake, in our view. We&#039;re trying to get that message out with our book -- along with getting the message out to teens about the risks that are indeed there.


MySpace and the online world have a component of risk, just as a swingset and slide at a playground have a component of risk. Unfortunately, we understand the playground risks almost intuitively. With the online world, &quot;common sense&quot; still remains to be developed.


I sent a trackback from our publishing site/blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.HowToPrimers.com,&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.HowToPrimers.com,&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.HowToPrimers.com,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; where we&#039;re posting excerpts from the book as we write it.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danah, this is a great article. My wife and I are about to publish a book titled &#8220;MySpace Safety: 51 Tips for Teens and Parents.&#8221; In the introduction and at the end of the book, we strongly warn parents against the idea of &#8220;banning&#8221; MySpace. We encourage them instead to join and share the experience with their teens. It&#8217;s one more part of life and community in today&#8217;s world, and is an integral part of community for young people.</p>
<p>Interaction and communication using sites like MySpace is &#8220;normal&#8221; for teens and young adults, and any parent who tries to ban &#8220;being normal&#8221; is making a big mistake, in our view. We&#8217;re trying to get that message out with our book &#8212; along with getting the message out to teens about the risks that are indeed there.</p>
<p>MySpace and the online world have a component of risk, just as a swingset and slide at a playground have a component of risk. Unfortunately, we understand the playground risks almost intuitively. With the online world, &#8220;common sense&#8221; still remains to be developed.</p>
<p>I sent a trackback from our publishing site/blog, <a href="http://www.HowToPrimers.com," rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.HowToPrimers.com?referer=');"></a><a href="http://www.HowToPrimers.com," rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.HowToPrimers.com?referer=');">http://www.HowToPrimers.com,</a> where we&#8217;re posting excerpts from the book as we write it.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12047</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please, please listen to the children, they are the ones that will rule the world.&quot;--Jim Morrison


It is amazing that one generation never seems to learn from the previous.  Great writing, if only the massses would pay attention.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please, please listen to the children, they are the ones that will rule the world.&#8221;&#8211;Jim Morrison</p>
<p>It is amazing that one generation never seems to learn from the previous.  Great writing, if only the massses would pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12046</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 42, and I agree completely with the authors point of view. My own sons are 16, and 12 and they will always be allowed to express themselves, will always be allowed to learn by mistakes, and will never be stifled in the name of safety or political correctness. Our kids should be our friends, not an entity to be molded to a cookie cutter pattern.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 42, and I agree completely with the authors point of view. My own sons are 16, and 12 and they will always be allowed to express themselves, will always be allowed to learn by mistakes, and will never be stifled in the name of safety or political correctness. Our kids should be our friends, not an entity to be molded to a cookie cutter pattern.</p>
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		<title>By: Lake</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12045</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im 16 and have been thinking all the things you just said.
thank you
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im 16 and have been thinking all the things you just said.<br />
thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12044</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I see it too, and have often equated our country with Rome, but apparently nobody was paying attention in History class.  I only have 3 things to say.
1.  Children are our future... not something to be feared.  My daughter is 17 months old, and I&#039;m already being told how to best rear her.  I&#039;m her mother, and I&#039;ll not raise her to be afraid.  (I have a lot more to say about child-rearing, but this isn&#039;t the apropriate venue.)
2.  MySpace (and the internet in general) is not dangerous in and of itself.  It&#039;s like saying guns kill people.  MySpace isn&#039;t telling you not to post there... it just wants to know who is posting, because it&#039;s supposed to be a community for people to get to know each other.  Posting anonymously defeats the very purpose of MySpace.
3.  I agree that the media is purpetuating the culture of fear.  Media isn&#039;t a news source, it&#039;s a business.  News is like their stock.. if there&#039;s nothing major to report, there&#039;s little stock, and it shouldn&#039;t be that way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I see it too, and have often equated our country with Rome, but apparently nobody was paying attention in History class.  I only have 3 things to say.<br />
1.  Children are our future&#8230; not something to be feared.  My daughter is 17 months old, and I&#8217;m already being told how to best rear her.  I&#8217;m her mother, and I&#8217;ll not raise her to be afraid.  (I have a lot more to say about child-rearing, but this isn&#8217;t the apropriate venue.)<br />
2.  MySpace (and the internet in general) is not dangerous in and of itself.  It&#8217;s like saying guns kill people.  MySpace isn&#8217;t telling you not to post there&#8230; it just wants to know who is posting, because it&#8217;s supposed to be a community for people to get to know each other.  Posting anonymously defeats the very purpose of MySpace.<br />
3.  I agree that the media is purpetuating the culture of fear.  Media isn&#8217;t a news source, it&#8217;s a business.  News is like their stock.. if there&#8217;s nothing major to report, there&#8217;s little stock, and it shouldn&#8217;t be that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriane</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12043</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the worlds view no one becomes a human being until they hit drinking age which is insane. I have been told many times by my parents, teachers, and random adults that my opinion does not count and that&#039;s a load of crap.
People are scared to death that their kids will do drugs because &quot;all their friends are&quot;. Well, as a teen of today let me tell you one of the reasons teens turn to drugs and alchol is because they think or know that their parents don&#039;t know or care about them. Most parents will swear they have a great relationship with their kids but then know nothing about them. They are either too blind or too ashamed to say the truth. And for God&#039;s sake don&#039;t try and buy our love cause it just causes trouble.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the worlds view no one becomes a human being until they hit drinking age which is insane. I have been told many times by my parents, teachers, and random adults that my opinion does not count and that&#8217;s a load of crap.<br />
People are scared to death that their kids will do drugs because &#8220;all their friends are&#8221;. Well, as a teen of today let me tell you one of the reasons teens turn to drugs and alchol is because they think or know that their parents don&#8217;t know or care about them. Most parents will swear they have a great relationship with their kids but then know nothing about them. They are either too blind or too ashamed to say the truth. And for God&#8217;s sake don&#8217;t try and buy our love cause it just causes trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: BroadwayBaby</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/11/02/growing_up_in_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-12042</link>
		<dc:creator>BroadwayBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the face of Myspace is Tom.
As to everything being a faceless corperation...this is America.  Get used to it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the face of Myspace is Tom.<br />
As to everything being a faceless corperation&#8230;this is America.  Get used to it.</p>
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