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	<title>Comments on: poverty is relative &#8211; update on Being Poor</title>
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		<title>By: the truth</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/11/poverty_is_rela.html/comment-page-1#comment-11664</link>
		<dc:creator>the truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is, we must have a poor class of people to sustain a &quot;natural&quot; economy.  Because of the unionization of poor and the working class, most potential poor are classified as lower middle class. This is due to an inflation in value of their pay as well as their abilities.  Both their false abilities as well as their over pay has created an invironment that is only suseptable to a global economy that is only too egar to wisk away the much needed working class jobs.  Only when a true pay for a true ability is established, this country WILL fail on a global market system.  What deception we have fell upon to believe that the untalented and/or unmotivated citizen is just as valuable as his more motivated and talented neighbor. The fact is, you can not nor need not have subscription cable TV, cell phone, second car, designer clothes, etc. when your productivity is at the very bottom of the work chain.  The incentive to achieve a higher level of income is the desire to have the same things that the middle income people enjoy. Yet the output levels should be at that same level as well.  Our deceptions of what we &quot;deserve&quot; is warped based on the propaganda of the union leaders. Even at the pay levels of the very poorest workers, we cannot compete with the global &quot;working class&quot;.  It is time that abilities
are measured and pay is distributed accordingly. Jobs will then come back to US and as the economy grows so will grow the pay of all people.
The sting of the truth is better than the false bottom of assumption.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is, we must have a poor class of people to sustain a &#8220;natural&#8221; economy.  Because of the unionization of poor and the working class, most potential poor are classified as lower middle class. This is due to an inflation in value of their pay as well as their abilities.  Both their false abilities as well as their over pay has created an invironment that is only suseptable to a global economy that is only too egar to wisk away the much needed working class jobs.  Only when a true pay for a true ability is established, this country WILL fail on a global market system.  What deception we have fell upon to believe that the untalented and/or unmotivated citizen is just as valuable as his more motivated and talented neighbor. The fact is, you can not nor need not have subscription cable TV, cell phone, second car, designer clothes, etc. when your productivity is at the very bottom of the work chain.  The incentive to achieve a higher level of income is the desire to have the same things that the middle income people enjoy. Yet the output levels should be at that same level as well.  Our deceptions of what we &#8220;deserve&#8221; is warped based on the propaganda of the union leaders. Even at the pay levels of the very poorest workers, we cannot compete with the global &#8220;working class&#8221;.  It is time that abilities<br />
are measured and pay is distributed accordingly. Jobs will then come back to US and as the economy grows so will grow the pay of all people.<br />
The sting of the truth is better than the false bottom of assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Wojtowicz</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/11/poverty_is_rela.html/comment-page-1#comment-11663</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Wojtowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a response to Being Poor which I&#039;ve put up on my blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://woj.com/archives/2005/10/simple_poverty.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://woj.com/archives/2005/10/simple_poverty.php&lt;/a&gt;


I&#039;d love to get some responses.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a response to Being Poor which I&#8217;ve put up on my blog: <a href="http://woj.com/archives/2005/10/simple_poverty.php" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/woj.com/archives/2005/10/simple_poverty.php?referer=');">http://woj.com/archives/2005/10/simple_poverty.php</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to get some responses.</p>
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		<title>By: Malatron</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/11/poverty_is_rela.html/comment-page-1#comment-11662</link>
		<dc:creator>Malatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.
this was a very insightful and poigant elaboration on this topic. I found your blog doing a google search for: Flickr Slideshow and am pleased to have come upon it. I will subscribe via bloglines.


I am simply inspired by your ability to write with such consise and meaningful words about so many  topics I find intriquing.


Thanks, and you really do a great job.
Malatron.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.<br />
this was a very insightful and poigant elaboration on this topic. I found your blog doing a google search for: Flickr Slideshow and am pleased to have come upon it. I will subscribe via bloglines.</p>
<p>I am simply inspired by your ability to write with such consise and meaningful words about so many  topics I find intriquing.</p>
<p>Thanks, and you really do a great job.<br />
Malatron.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brake</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/11/poverty_is_rela.html/comment-page-1#comment-11661</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A British sociologist, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805073701/104-9815592-5123139?v=glance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Marmot&lt;/a&gt; has demonstrated interestingly that while health is of course associated with absolute poverty it is also demonstrably linked to relative poverty. Along similar lines, Lord Layard has been writing and lecturing recently about the importance of relative social status to personal happiness (I blogged about this &lt;a&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A British sociologist, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805073701/104-9815592-5123139?v=glance" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805073701/104-9815592-5123139?v=glance&amp;referer=');">Michael Marmot</a> has demonstrated interestingly that while health is of course associated with absolute poverty it is also demonstrably linked to relative poverty. Along similar lines, Lord Layard has been writing and lecturing recently about the importance of relative social status to personal happiness (I blogged about this <a>here</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: MLMZT</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/11/poverty_is_rela.html/comment-page-1#comment-11660</link>
		<dc:creator>MLMZT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being poor is to engage in class struggle
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being poor is to engage in class struggle</p>
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