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	<title>Comments on: tagging music</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Pike</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11404</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Pike</dc:creator>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d pass on a little project I&#039;ve been working on - Shtaggle - its free and uses last.fm to get/send tags.


Its Mac OS X (10.5 i386 only, at the mo), and in early/on-off development (I fully appreciate your lack of time due to academia ;-)


Anyway, just thought I&#039;d let you know. If you have a chance, its at &lt;a href=&quot;http://shtaggle.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://shtaggle.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d pass on a little project I&#8217;ve been working on &#8211; Shtaggle &#8211; its free and uses last.fm to get/send tags.</p>
<p>Its Mac OS X (10.5 i386 only, at the mo), and in early/on-off development (I fully appreciate your lack of time due to academia <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, just thought I&#8217;d let you know. If you have a chance, its at <a href="http://shtaggle.co.uk" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/shtaggle.co.uk?referer=');">http://shtaggle.co.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Many-to-Many</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11405</link>
		<dc:creator>Many-to-Many</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;apophenia round-up: posts that slipped through&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#8217;ve been doing a terrible job at posting to M2M because i&#8217;m never quite sure what fraction of my posts belong here and what tone is appropriate. I&#8217;ve been actively posting to my personal blog apophenia and looking back, i...</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been doing a terrible job at posting to M2M because i&#8217;m never quite sure what fraction of my posts belong here and what tone is appropriate. I&#8217;ve been actively posting to my personal blog apophenia and looking back, i&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Schultz (Quiplash)</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11403</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Schultz (Quiplash)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best last.fm tag I have come across so far is: &quot;songs that i sing along to but i always forget the words so i say duh duh while trying to sound like i do know the words and no one is falling for it but they keep quiet because they are embarassed for me&quot;


:-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best last.fm tag I have come across so far is: &#8220;songs that i sing along to but i always forget the words so i say duh duh while trying to sound like i do know the words and no one is falling for it but they keep quiet because they are embarassed for me&#8221;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11402</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fucked up thing is that iPhoto already does &quot;tagging&quot;... that is you can enter keywords in for photos and then search, manipulate, etc. the photos based on the tags.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fucked up thing is that iPhoto already does &#8220;tagging&#8221;&#8230; that is you can enter keywords in for photos and then search, manipulate, etc. the photos based on the tags.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11401</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[hmm... I guess &quot;with great difficulty&quot; was not the response to &quot;How you do spell apophenia.]


Tagging is great and all, but last.fm&#039;s implementation is painfully shortsighted IMHO.  Unless they&#039;re somehow reading tags from your own music files, it&#039;s all rather ephemereal; last.fm goes belly-up, and all that metadata you&#039;ve added just goes POOF.


In a way, frankly, it&#039;s sort of like Flickr.  I love Flickr, I&#039;m a paying subscriber, but... there&#039;s no way in hell I&#039;m tagging my stuff online.  Because come the day that Flickr is no more or it becomes too expensive for me or I decide to close my account for whatever reason, all of the time I spent adding metadata to my photos would be lost to me.


In Flickr&#039;s defense, they recently added the ability to have keywords read from *your own photo files* (IPTC) and translated into tags.  That&#039;s much better :).


And yes, I understand that last.fm is a radio station, not a personal music depository, so I&#039;m not quite sure HOW they could effectively implement a meta-data&#039;ing system that allows the meta-data&#039;er to retain the fruits of his or her contributions.  But still, I think it&#039;s an important issue to consider!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[hmm... I guess "with great difficulty" was not the response to "How you do spell apophenia.]</p>
<p>Tagging is great and all, but last.fm&#8217;s implementation is painfully shortsighted IMHO.  Unless they&#8217;re somehow reading tags from your own music files, it&#8217;s all rather ephemereal; last.fm goes belly-up, and all that metadata you&#8217;ve added just goes POOF.</p>
<p>In a way, frankly, it&#8217;s sort of like Flickr.  I love Flickr, I&#8217;m a paying subscriber, but&#8230; there&#8217;s no way in hell I&#8217;m tagging my stuff online.  Because come the day that Flickr is no more or it becomes too expensive for me or I decide to close my account for whatever reason, all of the time I spent adding metadata to my photos would be lost to me.</p>
<p>In Flickr&#8217;s defense, they recently added the ability to have keywords read from *your own photo files* (IPTC) and translated into tags.  That&#8217;s much better <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>And yes, I understand that last.fm is a radio station, not a personal music depository, so I&#8217;m not quite sure HOW they could effectively implement a meta-data&#8217;ing system that allows the meta-data&#8217;er to retain the fruits of his or her contributions.  But still, I think it&#8217;s an important issue to consider!</p>
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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11400</link>
		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure - zephoria
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/08/12/tagging_music.html/comment-page-1#comment-11399</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the by, any chance you&#039;d share your AudioScrobbler profile name with us?


Pescabicicleta
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the by, any chance you&#8217;d share your AudioScrobbler profile name with us?</p>
<p>Pescabicicleta</p>
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