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July 30, 2005@ Blogher
I have to admit that the beginning conversation really got to me. There's definitely a lot of frustration and anger here, frustration over the purported authority of the men in blogging, anger over the validation that the mass media gives them. So there was a lot of airing that negativity. That's hard to hear. Some of it, unfortunately, was lacking facts. One issue came up over the fact that women don't network. Well, that's bullshit. Actually, women are traditionally the maintainers of domestic social networks. They tend to network more than men. The gender difference concerns the style of networking. Men are more likely to gather many weak ties; women tend to work hard to maintain strong ties. Each have their value. But when it comes to technology like Technorati, there is a validation of weak ties over strong ties. Or more actually, there's an assumption that all ties are created equal, which inadvertently validates the weak ties over the strong ties. My argument here is that we need to pay attention to the network structures. If folks are angry about their position in some purported hierarchy, they need to understand how the hierarchy works. And then change it. I'm not interested in having separate networks; i'm interested in making certain that people understand the gender bias they build into the network and that it represents a diversity of perspectives, is flexible to deal with a diversity of social structures. Anyhow, it's a fascinating place to be. I'm not going to be good about blogging this conference so definitely watch the links on Blogher.
Technorati Tags: blogher Category: blogging Posted by zephoria at July 30, 2005 11:41 AM
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you rock!!! i would have gone but i have family stuff going on. i totally agree about the difference in how we network. it is really frustrating though, i feel like a lot of men either don't get it or don't care when you bring up gender/power issues. these are funny but so true: http://www.sapphosbreathing.com/archives/000563.html
Posted by leena | July 30, 2005 12:27 PM
Posted on July 30, 2005 12:27
thanks for the commentary on your observations today. I am still trying to understand the difference between the male/female mindsets. I think it was at sxsw where the contrast between males and females in conferences was astounding. The one panel was about women in the web - these were the women in positions of influence and advancement, yet i came away rather shocked at the self-esteem/internal confidence or the way the system beat up the inards of females in the workforce. if the same panel was done with only men, the chest thumping alpha male behavior would have come forth on stage - and probably with less depth, perhaps intelligence, yet more perceived einsteinian factor? Why is it that people strive to appear to have their stuff together externally, yet forget the inards? Just a curious question for you. it is sort of like this morning in the coffee shop, the contrast worked the opposite way with an old farmer with a heart of gold, yet a steel exterior contrasting with the medically enhanced woman that perhaps in her mind thought she was the cat's meow - yet when in looked in her eyes....there wasn't much to be seen. if nothing, people are fascinating
Posted by marcus | July 30, 2005 11:06 PM
Posted on July 30, 2005 23:06
I enjoyed your comments, both in the large room (about hierarchy being different for men and women, interesting) and in the academic blogging session. I am a friend of Badger's. Also, I liked your HAT. It was excellent.
Posted by Jo | August 1, 2005 7:40 AM
Posted on August 1, 2005 07:40
Chest-thumping? Such stereotyping is just bigoted... and troubling.
But construing Technorati's technology as some gender discrimination conspiracy simply boggles the mind...
Posted by Lilith | August 8, 2005 5:56 PM
Posted on August 8, 2005 17:56
I worked at a very large, 98% women organization and my experience of women networking gathering at conferences is quite different. I enourage you to attend more women focused events to see the entire spectrum.
Posted by jody | August 17, 2005 11:57 AM
Posted on August 17, 2005 11:57
Jody - tell me more of what you are referring to. My experience of women networking is through the feminist community (i used to work in all women companies).
Posted by zephoria | August 17, 2005 3:14 PM
Posted on August 17, 2005 15:14
I think it was at sxsw where the contrast between males and females in conferences was astounding. The one panel was about women in the web - these were the women in positions of influence and advancement, yet i came away rather shocked at the self-esteem/internal confidence or the way the system beat up the inards of females in the workforce. if the same panel was done with only men, the chest thumping alpha male behavior would have come forth on stage - and probably with less depth, perhaps intelligence, yet more perceived einsteinian factor?
Posted by Stan | January 14, 2006 1:17 AM
Posted on January 14, 2006 01:17