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	<title>Comments on: SXSW, why i attended and marginalized populations</title>
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		<title>By: fling93 loves fishies</title>
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		<dc:creator>fling93 loves fishies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Gender Balance&lt;/strong&gt;

I noticed that my Audioscrobbler chart of my most frequently listened-to musical artists is remarkably gender-balanced. Six of the top twelve are women (Tori Amos, Shawn Colvin, Alanis Morissette, Dar Williams, Aimee Mann, and Sarah McLachlan), as are ...</description>
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<p>I noticed that my Audioscrobbler chart of my most frequently listened-to musical artists is remarkably gender-balanced. Six of the top twelve are women (Tori Amos, Shawn Colvin, Alanis Morissette, Dar Williams, Aimee Mann, and Sarah McLachlan), as are &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to respond to Ping&#039;s comments about exclusivity.  First, i totally know where he&#039;s coming from.  I don&#039;t agree with all that it takes to be relevant or at least by those metrics, i&#039;d be a complete outsider as almost none of them represent me.  Or maybe i&#039;m just not interesting.


The thing about conferences - all conferences - is that they have elements of exclusivity.  The reason that i go to conferences (and the reason that many of my friends go) is to keep up with friends who we often only see once a year.  I love CHI for this reason and it motivates me to publish there.  I went to SIGGRAPH for three years after i stopped doing graphics because all of my friends went and there was no other time to go.  The regular visitors of a conference get to know each other and they create an insider/outsider impression simply by having intimate relations with each other and being ecstatic to see each other.


This doesn&#039;t mean that these folks don&#039;t want to meet new people, but i&#039;d bet money that those of us who knew &gt;100 people at the conference spent more time with folks we knew than folks we didn&#039;t.  I sure as hell did.  That said, i was stoked to get to know new people and i am now hanging out with half a dozen new people in SF as a result of SXSW.  And when i go to CHI next week, i will see my girls mostly but i&#039;m sure i&#039;ll get to know at least one new person.


This is precisely why i&#039;m motivated to diversify conferences early on in their iterations - once that dynamic starts where everyone knows everyone, it&#039;s harder to break out of it, harder to diversify.  I don&#039;t believe it will ever be possible for a conference to rid itself of the appearance of exclusivity simply because too many people know each other and are sooo excited to see each other once again.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to respond to Ping&#8217;s comments about exclusivity.  First, i totally know where he&#8217;s coming from.  I don&#8217;t agree with all that it takes to be relevant or at least by those metrics, i&#8217;d be a complete outsider as almost none of them represent me.  Or maybe i&#8217;m just not interesting.</p>
<p>The thing about conferences &#8211; all conferences &#8211; is that they have elements of exclusivity.  The reason that i go to conferences (and the reason that many of my friends go) is to keep up with friends who we often only see once a year.  I love CHI for this reason and it motivates me to publish there.  I went to SIGGRAPH for three years after i stopped doing graphics because all of my friends went and there was no other time to go.  The regular visitors of a conference get to know each other and they create an insider/outsider impression simply by having intimate relations with each other and being ecstatic to see each other.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that these folks don&#8217;t want to meet new people, but i&#8217;d bet money that those of us who knew >100 people at the conference spent more time with folks we knew than folks we didn&#8217;t.  I sure as hell did.  That said, i was stoked to get to know new people and i am now hanging out with half a dozen new people in SF as a result of SXSW.  And when i go to CHI next week, i will see my girls mostly but i&#8217;m sure i&#8217;ll get to know at least one new person.</p>
<p>This is precisely why i&#8217;m motivated to diversify conferences early on in their iterations &#8211; once that dynamic starts where everyone knows everyone, it&#8217;s harder to break out of it, harder to diversify.  I don&#8217;t believe it will ever be possible for a conference to rid itself of the appearance of exclusivity simply because too many people know each other and are sooo excited to see each other once again.</p>
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		<title>By: MKD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MKD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Z.,


You should check this:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisnolan.com/archives/000712.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chrisnolan.com/archives/000712.html&lt;/a&gt;


&amp;  this:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_03_16.html#009264&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_03_16.html#009264&lt;/a&gt;


I usually like your posts on the problems about  &quot;boys&quot; and the struggles of grrrls, but I always wonder...especially because of my work around the world, that this problem is really a problem of white American rich boys (and grrrls)...


I think I am closer to Rebecca&#039;s position: that its a really boring conversation in the end of the day.  But I am apt to shift my opinion on this... (again...)






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Z.,</p>
<p>You should check this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chrisnolan.com/archives/000712.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.chrisnolan.com/archives/000712.html?referer=');">http://www.chrisnolan.com/archives/000712.html</a></p>
<p>&#038;  this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_03_16.html#009264" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_03_16.html_009264?referer=');">http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_03_16.html#009264</a></p>
<p>I usually like your posts on the problems about  &#8220;boys&#8221; and the struggles of grrrls, but I always wonder&#8230;especially because of my work around the world, that this problem is really a problem of white American rich boys (and grrrls)&#8230;</p>
<p>I think I am closer to Rebecca&#8217;s position: that its a really boring conversation in the end of the day.  But I am apt to shift my opinion on this&#8230; (again&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogging While Black and Women at Technology Conferences&lt;/strong&gt;


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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>homophily is the social networks term for &#039;birds of a feather stick together&#039;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>homophily is the social networks term for &#8216;birds of a feather stick together&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; homophilous&lt;/i&gt;?


i can take a stab it from my (lack of) latin/greek/whatever, but i can&#039;t find it in the dictionary.


care to clarify?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> homophilous</i>?</p>
<p>i can take a stab it from my (lack of) latin/greek/whatever, but i can&#8217;t find it in the dictionary.</p>
<p>care to clarify?</p>
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		<title>By: Ping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, danah.  I just posted a &lt;a href=&quot; &lt;a href=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;little&quot;&gt;http://www.livejournal.com/users/zestyping/100925.html&quot;&gt;little&lt;/a&gt; rant about my feelings related to exclusivity at SXSW.  It&#039;s a bit raw, but given my trust in your ability to deal with blunt expression and your experience as an ethnographer, i&#039;m curious what you think of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, danah.  I just posted a <a href=" <a href=" rel="nofollow">little&#8221;></a><a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/zestyping/100925.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.livejournal.com/users/zestyping/100925.html?referer=');">http://www.livejournal.com/users/zestyping/100925.html</a>&#8220;>little rant about my feelings related to exclusivity at SXSW.  It&#8217;s a bit raw, but given my trust in your ability to deal with blunt expression and your experience as an ethnographer, i&#8217;m curious what you think of it.</p>
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		<title>By: antipopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>antipopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;links for 2005-03-19&lt;/strong&gt;

atelierEUROPA: The Spaces of a Cultural Question An E-Mail Interview with Brian Holmes conducted by Marion von Osten (categories: brian-holmes labour work immaterial-labour multitudes) OTHER WORLDS: Social movements and the making of alternatives &amp;#82...</description>
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<p>atelierEUROPA: The Spaces of a Cultural Question An E-Mail Interview with Brian Holmes conducted by Marion von Osten (categories: brian-holmes labour work immaterial-labour multitudes) OTHER WORLDS: Social movements and the making of alternatives &#82&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Community Mobilization</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community Mobilization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Marginalized Populations in the Circut&lt;/strong&gt;

After reading danah&#039;s and Liz&#039;s post about the equality in numbers in the blogospher / nerdosphere / speaking circuit I felt compelled to add a bit to the discussion.</description>
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<p>After reading danah&#8217;s and Liz&#8217;s post about the equality in numbers in the blogospher / nerdosphere / speaking circuit I felt compelled to add a bit to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Reputation Sleeping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good Reputation Sleeping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Keeping it Real&lt;/strong&gt;

apophenia: SXSW, why i attended and marginalized populations. Good Points, well stated: &quot;It&#039;s socially and culturally not an equal playing field. You can&#039;t build a meritocracy on top of that and one doesn&#039;t exist. There are biases at every level.</description>
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<p>apophenia: SXSW, why i attended and marginalized populations. Good Points, well stated: &#8220;It&#8217;s socially and culturally not an equal playing field. You can&#8217;t build a meritocracy on top of that and one doesn&#8217;t exist. There are biases at every level.</p>
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