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]]> By: mark http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7466 mark Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:42:37 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7466 spend more time listening and less time catagorising and maybe you will appreciate the music on a deeper less materialistic level. spend more time listening and less time catagorising and maybe you will appreciate the music on a deeper less materialistic level.

]]> By: Paolo Massa Blog http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7475 Paolo Massa Blog Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:36:16 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7475 <strong>Lucas, please, add tagging to WebJay</strong> A lot of discussion about why tags are so useful (folksonomies is the current buzzword) on Many2Many. As I noted in a previous post, at the moment there are services that allows you to tag: URLs (del.icio.us), photos (flickr), your... Lucas, please, add tagging to WebJay

A lot of discussion about why tags are so useful (folksonomies is the current buzzword) on Many2Many. As I noted in a previous post, at the moment there are services that allows you to tag: URLs (del.icio.us), photos (flickr), your…

]]> By: Chris L http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7465 Chris L Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:39:43 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7465 Well, that takes all the fun out of it! I think you're looking at only one level of connection and not the most interesting (to me): surface style. I'd rather hear the diverse music from one's playlist and perhaps learn to understand the connection that must be there between them! If there were such an option from the production end, I'd like to see it paired with a similar option on the consumer end to ignore it :) Cheers... Well, that takes all the fun out of it! I think you’re looking at only one level of connection and not the most interesting (to me): surface style. I’d rather hear the diverse music from one’s playlist and perhaps learn to understand the connection that must be there between them! If there were such an option from the production end, I’d like to see it paired with a similar option on the consumer end to ignore it :) Cheers…

]]> By: zephoria http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7464 zephoria Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:44:27 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7464 Chris - the problem is that i don't just want to see what you're listening to - i want to listen to it. Thus, it'd be great if you could see that i listen to trip-hop and Cash, but choose to listen to those as separate radio stations. Chris – the problem is that i don’t just want to see what you’re listening to – i want to listen to it. Thus, it’d be great if you could see that i listen to trip-hop and Cash, but choose to listen to those as separate radio stations.

]]> By: Chris L http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7463 Chris L Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:25:55 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7463 Seems to me that what you see as a problem is really what makes these sites most interesting... shouldn't we celebrate the fact that you like Johnny Cash and trip-hop. Isn't that what it's all about? I can get a good list of trip-hop anywhere. I don't want a classification of music, I want a classification of LISTENERS because that's what turns me on to the good stuff I might otherwise have missed. I love Elliott Smith. But I want people who groove to Elliott Smith to also get turned on to The Postal Service, The Ramones, and Pantera. Not because they are the same, but because we are wildly diverse and if they open up their ears they might be just as able to handle the diversity as me (or you!). Seems to me that what you see as a problem is really what makes these sites most interesting… shouldn’t we celebrate the fact that you like Johnny Cash and trip-hop. Isn’t that what it’s all about? I can get a good list of trip-hop anywhere. I don’t want a classification of music, I want a classification of LISTENERS because that’s what turns me on to the good stuff I might otherwise have missed. I love Elliott Smith. But I want people who groove to Elliott Smith to also get turned on to The Postal Service, The Ramones, and Pantera. Not because they are the same, but because we are wildly diverse and if they open up their ears they might be just as able to handle the diversity as me (or you!).

]]> By: Scott Niven http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7462 Scott Niven Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:38:52 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7462 I'll take your obsession with personal genre tagged and double it! (Sorry, bad poker metaphor) Ever since I got my iPod, I too have spent hours organizing my genres. I originally had my genres by year, because the year a song comes out is very important to me, and the iPod doesn't sort by year. But now I've got genre by actual genre, and year by year (and a playlist for every year). In the comments field, I have my own set of del.icio.us style tags, all marked by []. For instance, I have the following tags: [Teen] [Quirky] [Angry Love] [Sad Love] [Old Skool] Because I've separated them by brackets, I can list them one after the other. So if I consider a song both quirky and old skool, my comments tag looks like this: [Quirky][Old Skool] I can then create playlists according to any of these "genres." Obesssive? You bet? But worth it? To me, most definitely! I’ll take your obsession with personal genre tagged and double it! (Sorry, bad poker metaphor)

Ever since I got my iPod, I too have spent hours organizing my genres. I originally had my genres by year, because the year a song comes out is very important to me, and the iPod doesn’t sort by year. But now I’ve got genre by actual genre, and year by year (and a playlist for every year). In the comments field, I have my own set of del.icio.us style tags, all marked by []. For instance, I have the following tags:

[Teen]
[Quirky]
[Angry Love]
[Sad Love]
[Old Skool]

Because I’ve separated them by brackets, I can list them one after the other. So if I consider a song both quirky and old skool, my comments tag looks like this:

[Quirky][Old Skool]

I can then create playlists according to any of these “genres.”

Obesssive? You bet? But worth it? To me, most definitely!

]]> By: Lucas Gonze http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7461 Lucas Gonze Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:30:46 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7461 Hi Danah, On webjay.org, my own site, there is no genre. This is not intended to be quirky, the idea is that playlists define genre rather than the other way around. In other words, it's not wrong for Eliot Smith to be at the top of the Breaks cluster, it's wrong to call the genre that Eliot Smith is at the top of "Breaks". This is actually a well known problem in information retrieval. It's one thing to be able to automatically find groups of related items, it's another to figure out what to call them. Hi Danah,

On webjay.org, my own site, there is no genre. This is not intended to be quirky, the idea is that playlists define genre rather than the other way around. In other words, it’s not wrong for Eliot Smith to be at the top of the Breaks cluster, it’s wrong to call the genre that Eliot Smith is at the top of “Breaks”.

This is actually a well known problem in information retrieval. It’s one thing to be able to automatically find groups of related items, it’s another to figure out what to call them.

]]> By: David http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html/comment-page-1#comment-7460 David Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:15:02 +0000 http://ubuntu.my/wp30/archives/2004/12/31/music_genres_and_moods.html#comment-7460 You're touching on my biggest problem with Last.FM: I often want to listen to it while I eat breakfast, but it has no idea what music is appropriate for that time of day. Of course I would be too lazy to tag appropriate morning music. Sometimes it's a little uncanny: I set up an account for my girlfriend the other day, and it was soon playing 'Space Oddity,' which she had been singing for the previous three days. You’re touching on my biggest problem with Last.FM: I often want to listen to it while I eat breakfast, but it has no idea what music is appropriate for that time of day. Of course I would be too lazy to tag appropriate morning music.
Sometimes it’s a little uncanny: I set up an account for my girlfriend the other day, and it was soon playing ‘Space Oddity,’ which she had been singing for the previous three days.

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