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		<title>By: The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6291</link>
		<dc:creator>The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#039;s mission&lt;/strong&gt;

Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#8217;s mission</strong></p>
<p>Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6290</link>
		<dc:creator>The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#039;s mission&lt;/strong&gt;

Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH using a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#8217;s mission</strong></p>
<p>Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH using a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6289</link>
		<dc:creator>The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#039;s mission&lt;/strong&gt;

Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH using a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#8217;s mission</strong></p>
<p>Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH using a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: doctor paradox</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6286</link>
		<dc:creator>doctor paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my favorite is that whenever i have to call sprint tech support, the first thing they ask me is &quot;do you have a land line? do you have another phone you can call us from?&quot; and i am like, &quot;NO i don&#039;t have another phone - that&#039;s why i have THIS phone!!&quot; hello?!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my favorite is that whenever i have to call sprint tech support, the first thing they ask me is &#8220;do you have a land line? do you have another phone you can call us from?&#8221; and i am like, &#8220;NO i don&#8217;t have another phone &#8211; that&#8217;s why i have THIS phone!!&#8221; hello?!</p>
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		<title>By: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6285</link>
		<dc:creator>Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 13:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which phone manufacturer is this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which phone manufacturer is this?</p>
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		<title>By: The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6288</link>
		<dc:creator>The Industry Standard: Guest Blog: Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 11:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#039;s mission&lt;/strong&gt;

Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kiss the girls and make them cry: the cellular industry&#8217;s mission</strong></p>
<p>Three women driven nuts last week by the cellular industry (mobile phone operators and manufacturers): Danah Boyd, Ma Bell and myself. Danah Boyd writes that she was driven to tears by T-Mobile after spending hours trying to mobblog at SIGGRAPH&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sascha becker</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6284</link>
		<dc:creator>sascha becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 10:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to borrow my phone?
It sends mms &amp; email msgs no problem. Shitty camera though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to borrow my phone?<br />
It sends mms &#038; email msgs no problem. Shitty camera though.</p>
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		<title>By: mie</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6283</link>
		<dc:creator>mie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 19:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danah, soooooo sorry you went through all that! I totally agree that it should be easy...I wouldn&#039;t even be near that phone if Dav hadn&#039;t been there to set it all up for me. I am very much like you and have no patience if the thing I want to use isn&#039;t intuitive. We should not have to struggle.


Anyhow, in case you&#039;re still up for it - and up for dual moblogging fun - Dav&#039;s offer to help set it up is still here. If he got mine working, he should be able to get yours too...


hugs
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danah, soooooo sorry you went through all that! I totally agree that it should be easy&#8230;I wouldn&#8217;t even be near that phone if Dav hadn&#8217;t been there to set it all up for me. I am very much like you and have no patience if the thing I want to use isn&#8217;t intuitive. We should not have to struggle.</p>
<p>Anyhow, in case you&#8217;re still up for it &#8211; and up for dual moblogging fun &#8211; Dav&#8217;s offer to help set it up is still here. If he got mine working, he should be able to get yours too&#8230;</p>
<p>hugs</p>
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		<title>By: Marc's Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6287</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc's Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 15:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Alert!  Alert!  Doctoral student let loose with Cam phone!&lt;/strong&gt;

Look who just got Flickr to auto-blog! Be warned. Soon there will be a camera phone and then it will be all over. Trouble is a-brewing because i started playing with new technology. (And yes, this means that i&#039;ll be able to auto-Flickr-photo-blog SIGG...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Alert!  Alert!  Doctoral student let loose with Cam phone!</strong></p>
<p>Look who just got Flickr to auto-blog! Be warned. Soon there will be a camera phone and then it will be all over. Trouble is a-brewing because i started playing with new technology. (And yes, this means that i&#8217;ll be able to auto-Flickr-photo-blog SIGG&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Esme V</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/08/06/technology_and_frustration.html/comment-page-1#comment-6282</link>
		<dc:creator>Esme V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 01:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t know what you were expecting from T-Mobile. My experience with mobile operators has been disappointing. At KPN Mobile (the biggest operator in the Netherlands), they can&#039;t even get their billing system to work. Last year, I ordered a GPRS subscription (8 EUR per month for 1Mb of data) and they kept billing me for their i-mode service. I did not even have an i-mode phone. It took several months and many phone calls to get it straight. They did finally issue me a refund for all those months. And lately, I canceled my GPRS subscription (the 8 EUR per month) and when I noticed it was still on my bill, I emailed them. The response: what&#039;s your client number? Now why on earth would they be asking ME for my client number? They have my mobile phone number already. At this point, I exploded and I am now going to write an article on Industry Standard about your experience and my KPN Mobile experience. I cannot imagine these people getting into more sophisticated things like location-based services and photoblogging. They can&#039;t even get billing right. What a stupid bunch!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know what you were expecting from T-Mobile. My experience with mobile operators has been disappointing. At KPN Mobile (the biggest operator in the Netherlands), they can&#8217;t even get their billing system to work. Last year, I ordered a GPRS subscription (8 EUR per month for 1Mb of data) and they kept billing me for their i-mode service. I did not even have an i-mode phone. It took several months and many phone calls to get it straight. They did finally issue me a refund for all those months. And lately, I canceled my GPRS subscription (the 8 EUR per month) and when I noticed it was still on my bill, I emailed them. The response: what&#8217;s your client number? Now why on earth would they be asking ME for my client number? They have my mobile phone number already. At this point, I exploded and I am now going to write an article on Industry Standard about your experience and my KPN Mobile experience. I cannot imagine these people getting into more sophisticated things like location-based services and photoblogging. They can&#8217;t even get billing right. What a stupid bunch!</p>
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