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		<title>By: Jim Chasm</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Chasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,


One problem with your reasoning that the most valuable Erdos number would be 16 (because it would be unique) is that the higher one&#039;s Erdos number, the more unstable it is.  One day you&#039;re the only 16, the next day your Erdos 15 co-author collaborates with a 3 and all of a sudden  your number is down to the most commmon (finite) number of 5.


Jim
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>One problem with your reasoning that the most valuable Erdos number would be 16 (because it would be unique) is that the higher one&#8217;s Erdos number, the more unstable it is.  One day you&#8217;re the only 16, the next day your Erdos 15 co-author collaborates with a 3 and all of a sudden  your number is down to the most commmon (finite) number of 5.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: David Pesta</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5134</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2004 21:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It turns out there are more people with Erdos 5 than any other number (except infinity, the Erdos assigned to those who have no link), even higher numbers than 5.  In fact, you are more unique to have an Erdos number greater than 5 (there are only 47269) than to have one less than 5 (there are 94774).


&lt;a href=&quot;http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html&lt;/a&gt;
(note this isn&#039;t current or exhaustive)


Erds number  0  ---      1 person
Erds number  1  ---    502 people
Erds number  2  ---   5713 people
Erds number  3  ---  26422 people
Erds number  4  ---  62136 people
Erds number  5  ---  66157 people
Erds number  6  ---  32280 people
Erds number  7  ---  10431 people
Erds number  8  ---   3214 people
Erds number  9  ---    953 people
Erds number 10  ---    262 people
Erds number 11  ---     94 people
Erds number 12  ---     23 people
Erds number 13  ---      4 people
Erds number 14  ---      7 people
Erds number 15  ---      1 person
Erds number 16  ---      0 people


If the most common Erdos number goes for over $1000 on eBay, imagine 16, what would become the most unique Erdos number in the world would sell for.  R. G. Kamalov, who happens to be #15, has an unrealized jackpot on eBay.


Once again it shows that doing research before spending money on eBay is very important (assuming you were in it strictly for the number).  ;D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It turns out there are more people with Erdos 5 than any other number (except infinity, the Erdos assigned to those who have no link), even higher numbers than 5.  In fact, you are more unique to have an Erdos number greater than 5 (there are only 47269) than to have one less than 5 (there are 94774).</p>
<p><a href="http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/personalwebs.oakland.edu/_grossman/trivia.html?referer=');">http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html</a><br />
(note this isn&#8217;t current or exhaustive)</p>
<p>Erds number  0  &#8212;      1 person<br />
Erds number  1  &#8212;    502 people<br />
Erds number  2  &#8212;   5713 people<br />
Erds number  3  &#8212;  26422 people<br />
Erds number  4  &#8212;  62136 people<br />
Erds number  5  &#8212;  66157 people<br />
Erds number  6  &#8212;  32280 people<br />
Erds number  7  &#8212;  10431 people<br />
Erds number  8  &#8212;   3214 people<br />
Erds number  9  &#8212;    953 people<br />
Erds number 10  &#8212;    262 people<br />
Erds number 11  &#8212;     94 people<br />
Erds number 12  &#8212;     23 people<br />
Erds number 13  &#8212;      4 people<br />
Erds number 14  &#8212;      7 people<br />
Erds number 15  &#8212;      1 person<br />
Erds number 16  &#8212;      0 people</p>
<p>If the most common Erdos number goes for over $1000 on eBay, imagine 16, what would become the most unique Erdos number in the world would sell for.  R. G. Kamalov, who happens to be #15, has an unrealized jackpot on eBay.</p>
<p>Once again it shows that doing research before spending money on eBay is very important (assuming you were in it strictly for the number).  ;D</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5133</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have won the auction. Not because I intend to pay or to collaborate with the seller --my Erdos number is already 3-- but to stop the mockery this person is doing of the paper/journal system, and also to stop some poor soul who may be in need of a joint paper for his tenure case to spend his money in this travesty... Joint papers have to be worked and earned, not sold, auctioned or bought.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have won the auction. Not because I intend to pay or to collaborate with the seller &#8211;my Erdos number is already 3&#8211; but to stop the mockery this person is doing of the paper/journal system, and also to stop some poor soul who may be in need of a joint paper for his tenure case to spend his money in this travesty&#8230; Joint papers have to be worked and earned, not sold, auctioned or bought.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5132</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have won the auction. Not because I intend to pay or to collaborate with the seller --my Erdos number is already 3-- but to stop the mockery this person is doing of the paper/journal system, and also to stop some poor soul who may be in need of a joint paper for his tenure case to spend his money in this travesty...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have won the auction. Not because I intend to pay or to collaborate with the seller &#8211;my Erdos number is already 3&#8211; but to stop the mockery this person is doing of the paper/journal system, and also to stop some poor soul who may be in need of a joint paper for his tenure case to spend his money in this travesty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marisa</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5131</link>
		<dc:creator>Marisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, there; I surfed into this site on a search for Ani lyrics and found this (hilarious) post.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;d bid on this auction, just for the heck of it, but my Erdos number is already 3.  (Erdos --&gt; Charlie Colburn --&gt; Dan Ardeacon --&gt; me, Marisa.)


Cheers, and nice to meet you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, there; I surfed into this site on a search for Ani lyrics and found this (hilarious) post.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d bid on this auction, just for the heck of it, but my Erdos number is already 3.  (Erdos &#8211;> Charlie Colburn &#8211;> Dan Ardeacon &#8211;> me, Marisa.)</p>
<p>Cheers, and nice to meet you.</p>
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		<title>By: Banazir the Jedi Hobbit</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5130</link>
		<dc:creator>Banazir the Jedi Hobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You realize how many people there are with an Erds number of 4?  Even in 2000, there were over 62K:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html&lt;/a&gt;


Heck, Bill Gates is a 4.  *I&#039;m* a 4 and I publish strictly in CS venues.  :-)


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kddresearch.org/Personal/bhsu/erdos.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kddresearch.org/Personal/bhsu/erdos.txt&lt;/a&gt;


I&#039;ve got it to give some credit to the guy for coming up with an idea for supplementing his summer salary.  Most of my students have Erds numbers of 5, but I don&#039;t see them paying me $364 for the &quot;privilege&quot;!  ;-)


--
Banazir
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize how many people there are with an Erds number of 4?  Even in 2000, there were over 62K:</p>
<p><a href="http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/personalwebs.oakland.edu/_grossman/trivia.html?referer=');">http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~grossman/trivia.html</a></p>
<p>Heck, Bill Gates is a 4.  *I&#8217;m* a 4 and I publish strictly in CS venues.  <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kddresearch.org/Personal/bhsu/erdos.txt" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.kddresearch.org/Personal/bhsu/erdos.txt?referer=');">http://www.kddresearch.org/Personal/bhsu/erdos.txt</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got it to give some credit to the guy for coming up with an idea for supplementing his summer salary.  Most of my students have Erds numbers of 5, but I don&#8217;t see them paying me $364 for the &#8220;privilege&#8221;!  <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Banazir</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Tozier</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5129</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Tozier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a phase II, by the way....


Cf. auction listing and Notional Slurry.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a phase II, by the way&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cf. auction listing and Notional Slurry.</p>
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		<title>By: cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5128</link>
		<dc:creator>cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0+5i.  heh-heh.


&lt;snorts and pushes glasses up bridge of nose&gt;


:-)










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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>0+5i.  heh-heh.</p>
<p>&lt;snorts and pushes glasses up bridge of nose&gt;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zephoria</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5127</link>
		<dc:creator>zephoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brian - it is indeed hilarious.


Of course, i&#039;m not sure what to make of &lt;a href=&quot;http://williamtozier.com/slurry/comment/social/erdos.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the predictive post on the 20th&lt;/a&gt;.  I hadn&#039;t read that before posting this.  And more humorously, i received 4 emails about this before getting to my listservs.


Are my posting topics that predictive?  Hmmm....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brian &#8211; it is indeed hilarious.</p>
<p>Of course, i&#8217;m not sure what to make of <a href="http://williamtozier.com/slurry/comment/social/erdos.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/williamtozier.com/slurry/comment/social/erdos.html?referer=');">the predictive post on the 20th</a>.  I hadn&#8217;t read that before posting this.  And more humorously, i received 4 emails about this before getting to my listservs.</p>
<p>Are my posting topics that predictive?  Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2004/04/21/decrease_your_erdos_number.html/comment-page-1#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow the auction on &lt;a href=&quot;http://williamtozier.com/slurry/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his blog&lt;/a&gt;; it&#039;s hilarious.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow the auction on <a href="http://williamtozier.com/slurry/index.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/williamtozier.com/slurry/index.html?referer=');">his blog</a>; it&#8217;s hilarious.</p>
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