Comments on: correcting Marc Canter’s perception of my views

By: Scott Moore

Scott Moore — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:26:31 +0000

But you, danah, got us thinking and that’s not a bad thing.

By: zephoria

zephoria — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:49:59 +0000

You was directed at Marc. That’s why i began the sentence with his name. It was a public statement to Marc.

By: Scott Moore

Scott Moore — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:04:13 +0000

I popped off about being thankful for people who abuse systems in beta elsewhere, and I’d like expand on it while agreeing with Christopher. I read danah’s “YOU” the same way. My opinion on seriously designing social systems is that the gamers and abusers should be taken seriously as part of the design. When considering any feature where people interact, my first thoughts are – how can I use this to harrass and annoy someone and what interaction am I willing to compromise.

Attempting to hold a public beta while protecting the system from abuse is a lot like throwing a wild party and not expecting someone to get drunk and knock over your priceless antique. Think of the possibility ahead of time and work it out the best you can – then let people in.

By: Life With Alacrity

Life With Alacrity — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:25:04 +0000

Followup on Orkut

I’ve read of emails, Orkut messages, and blog postings since my post yesterday, so I thought I would share some with you….(pointers and commentary to several of Dahah Boyd’s blog entries, and other blogs and emails follow)

By: Life With Alacrity

Life With Alacrity — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:22:07 +0000

Followup on Orkut

By: lago

lago — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:07:12 +0000

Oh, I know.

By: Christopher Allen

Christopher Allen — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:42:28 +0000

Danah, when I first read this, I thought of something else.

When I saw the word “YOU”, I was thinking of myself and Marc Canter as developers. I’m not currently involved in developing Social Software, but I come from the developer mind set.

“WE” developers “should take these relationships more seriously”. That means that although our users will game, will play, and stretch the system, we should design it as seriously as possible those who are serious, concerned, and value their relationships. “Calling someone a friend” should mean something — something important.

By: joe

joe — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 09:33:52 +0000

sorry for the shotgun emails, dmb… as a follow up to my last comment:

1) Orkut will not add anyone with an email address that is already in their system (so, for example, I can’t add myself using an email address that I’ve already supplied to orkut in my profile). I just ignores these requests.

2) You can’t invite a friend and then immediately delete them… there’s a time lag for the invitation email to be sent.

By: joe

joe — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 09:20:06 +0000

This got me thinking… how can I destroy Orkut’s invitation elitism but not cheapen the idea of a friend? Answer: invite anyone I want to and, if they are not a friend, immediately delete them from my friends network.

By: joe

joe — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 09:02:03 +0000

I’m more intrigued by the “what is a fan?” question and who sends invitations to whom elitism… I’ve only sent one invitation out and that person is in the Doctorow-leave-me-the-fuck-alone camp.